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do-do-do-do-do do-do-do-do-do there yet

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gyal he hey man I like that Rajon eyes

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on coming in big house the family man

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hope everything's good because I know

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you're listening right now yeah Jax

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alright wow wow wow wow what an amazing

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week on on fade to black

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I got to tell you the two Smiths mrs.

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Smith and mr. Smith two nights in a row

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tonight we're gonna do the disclosure

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movement and we've got Steven Bassett

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checking in with us and we have dr. Lisa

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gyal are now here tonight too as well

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first time guest she's part of the

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disclosure movement and works with a mr.

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Bassett and so we're gonna have her up

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first

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Ronnie McMullen is going to be here from

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life change T in ancient life oil we're

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gonna talk some CBD tonight see if we

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can get kicked off at YouTube that'll be

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fun and so there you go alright

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and the I gotta say nothing but a long

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line of phone calls today with those out

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there about what's going on it is just

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it's crazy I mean last week Monday

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Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday bad

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bet or something every single day and

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barely got to the weekend man all right

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here we go enjoy the show tonight

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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 beyond the airport

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who has an ops and applying her has been

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found and is now in the possession of

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the RA the game is rigged changed the

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game game changer I occasionally think

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat from outside this way

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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and a GRA the global rain

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I need your help to get to the year

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like with Jimmy judge on the game change

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in network

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good evening how you doing

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fade to black

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this spunky radio for the masses uh yeah

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man today's Wednesday July 11th 2018

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one hundred and ninety two days into the

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new year just 173 days left we are live

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from a bunker somewhere in beautiful

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downtown Burbank California I would like

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to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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States hither and thither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network and K GRA the

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planet I'm yours to be Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing you like this shirt you

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digging that that's from the good

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Reverend Jim Ian and Sarah they sent me

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a collection of Hawaiian shirts from the

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UK from Dover and yeah so I wore this

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one tonight because it's it's you know

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it's a fade to black Hawaiian shirt it's

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pretty cool isn't it kind of diggin it

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it's a mood changer yeah sometimes you

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just got to change your shirt that's

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right and I did yeah it's really really

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a nice shirt so thank you and mica thank

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you so much all right it's all good how

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is everybody doing tonight I'm in a

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great mood and yeah the shirt had a lot

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to do with it crazy crazy day today and

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gearing up for tonight's show we've got

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Steven Bassett here and we have

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first-time guest dr. Lisa Gallardo is

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gonna be with us at the bottom of the

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hour in a few short minutes

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Ronnie McMullen is going to be here from

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ancient life oils and we'll talk a

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little CBD and get ready for dr. Lisa at

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the bottom of the hour tonight we're

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going to discuss the disclosure movement

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we've had Steven on with us so

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many times over the years and I love

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hanging out with him he is so committed

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and he is he's definitely mr. disclosure

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there's no doubt about it and so we're

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aspects of the disclosure movement and

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dr. Lisa goal are now who's gonna be

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with us at the bottom in the hour has

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been working with Steve so we're gonna

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get what she is doing as well and her

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background is very very interesting and

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I think it's great to have somebody of

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her caliber to join our community and

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where she came from and her background

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is very interesting so we're gonna go

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through all of that tonight and her

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efforts into the disclosure movement so

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that's our show tonight

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what an interesting week we've had

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unpaid to black here we had the two

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Smiths on we had a mrs. Smith on Monday

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night an amazing guitar player guitar

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goddess and what a great show that was I

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had so much fun doing that and then to

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roll that right over to Emory Smith last

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night memory who I've interviewed so

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many times I've done three conferences

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this year with Emory and last night and

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I posted today over at on stellar you

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can go and read what I had to say about

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Emory in the show last night Emory and I

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have a way of dialogue and and when you

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do when you do that and like we did last

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night and things just happen and last

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night was just one of those shows and I

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got to the end of the show Nova wow wow

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that was really really cool and so what

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a week right and I've got a few comments

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we've got Ronnie coming in here in just

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a bit so but I just wanted to say when

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it comes to and I asked Emory last night

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Amory either were dealing with you a B C

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or D you know and I think I got to D and

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and his answer was an interesting one

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but it's those questions need to be

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asked and for anybody out there that

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thinks that I don't ask those questions

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or that those thoughts aren't on my mind

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they are just like you and those

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questions have to get asked and there

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you go

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you know and it was just a very colorful

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comprehensive information filled show

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last night so if you haven't caught it

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it it's up it's in the archives it's

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there you can go and check it out it's

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also over on YouTube and go and check it

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out in case you were one of the few that

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missed the show you can check out what I

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have posted over at on stellar o NS te

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ll 8r dot-com if you haven't registered

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over at on stellar go and do it now and

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when you do don't forget to post your

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profile picture but send me a friend

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request okay and if you don't have a

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profile picture yet I was gonna shoot a

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video man I gotta get out of here I got

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to get ready for Ronnie I was gonna

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shoot a video he's scrolling through

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friend requests that have the on stellar

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alien for the profile pic it it's so

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long

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thousands I'm not kidding I haven't

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counted but if I scroll it really slow I

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can get through it in about a minute and

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I was gonna shoot a video of that thing

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scrolling it's nuts and I know that

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there are so many out there that sent me

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friend requests and they're going hey

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man you know what's up with this church

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guy right well I'm telling you upload

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something upload an image there so I

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know that you're not a bot just post

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something I don't care post a picture of

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your dog your cat you know your

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refrigerator I don't care but if you do

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that I'll reply okay it's really that

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simple okay let's let's get to

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everything that I've got to

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- tonight okay breaking news the head of

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the project Sektor at the Ministry of

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Antiquities wide Abdul Allah revealed

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this is in Egypt Giza revealed the plan

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to be used to lift the 30-ton

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sarcophagus and transfer it to one of

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Alexandria's archaeological sites Abdul

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Allah told said today and I'm quoting

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here that the plan consists of two steps

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one the first is filling the area

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surrounding the sarcophagus then lifting

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the sarcophagus by a tow truck in a

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scientific way that does not harm the

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antiquity end quote

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now put that in your pipe and smoke it

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unbelievable what is in that sarcophagus

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I cannot wait I just cannot wait alright

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everything I'm gonna get to before

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Ronnie gets in here Ronnie McMullen

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which is happy birthday - today Lil Kim

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is 44 that's right also today Fator nod

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and friend Michelle Harris is 29 years

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old

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happy birthday Michelle I know you guys

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are tearing it up tonight and next year

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on fade to black next year Michelle will

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get that 29 year old birthday shout-out

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to as well happy birthday Michelle give

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my best of the family

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right on this day in history oh TD 1979

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Skylab America's first space station

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comes crashing down on to Australia and

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into the Indian Ocean after only five

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years after the last man Skylab mission

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ended now check this out no one was

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injured but it was launched in 1973 so

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you do the math that's nuts and I love

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Skylab too it was such a part of my

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childhood

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all right fader fact helmet now this is

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a fader fact that I'm going to bring

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Ronnie McMullen on here in just a second

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and I'm going to give you this fader

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fact and I'm gonna ask Ronnie about it

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number one number two I want to know

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tomorrow on the show if you are going to

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repeat this fader fact to a friend okay

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are you ready Helmut Simon the man who

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found the 5,000 year old Otzi the Iceman

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in 1991 was also but I have everything

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archived and I'm wondering maybe we

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should do baby something on the site on

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the website and an archive from there

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for everybody but maybe I should put a

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book together I think it would be rather

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interesting but it would have to be

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updated all the time I guess if you did

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an e-book you can update an e-book

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electronically right and then you can

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huh I got to think about that do a PDF

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version a downloadable version and then

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we just update it every day yeah and

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then you can update the last page and

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just add it yeah you could do that hmm

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something to think about let's bring on

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Ronnie McMullen from ancient life oil

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Ronnie good evening my friend how are

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you good how you doing Jimmy man you

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sound loud you should do radio yeah

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that's funny you you got dude you've got

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you've got the voice

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yeah you know I told that but you know

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when you listen to your own voice you

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don't think so you know you think he

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sounds like car driving in the tunnel or

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something I can't stand it I after the

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show each night I'll uh I'll leave the

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bunk I'll go down the hall into Rita

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studio and she's in there working and

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she's always listening to the show right

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she needs to critique me when I walk in

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and tell me you know how bad it sucked

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and but I'm listening to my voice and I

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swear nails on a chalkboard are pleasant

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I can't stand it man I cannot yeah II

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see your voice is good no I don't wanna

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give you a big head Ernie no no no you

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have a great pair of lungs oh no no no

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you're doing good but here's the kicker

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okay most everybody that is a radio host

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talk show host whatever they don't like

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their own voice well you know and

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there's something else man I've got

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Steven Bassett calling me what is he

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doing he's on another show for another

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no I'm gonna let him just hang out why

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would he

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that is funny I shouldn't have even said

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anything and and this is this is the

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truth Ronnie you talked to me on the

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phone all the time

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is it the same voice on the phone

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grating into your ear that you're

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listening to right now I know about

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grading but yeah it's the same voice you

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know and it's it's just the way that it

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is you and I have hung out in public

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it's the same voice it's what I hope so

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it's gotten on it's gonna be in kind of

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eerie it's got to just cause ear

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bleeding it has to well anyway welcome

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back Ronnie how are you everything good

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everything's good how things great how's

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your race car oh I'm so excited we're

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getting ready for the Las Vegas Torino

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and we're hoping to place number one Las

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Vegas to Reno how do you do that what

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it's some I if I remember right I think

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it's six hundred something miles it's a

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long race it's a long race and

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I'm kind of excited you know so it's the

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car looks good in fact we got a new T

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coming out that is going to have the

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race cars right on the front V its

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off-road though soft Road class ten

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right you know how do you get to Reno

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from Las Vegas okay I get the desert

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part but then you get up to the

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mountains and forests wow that's got to

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be crazy I want to see the route it's

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it's a while it's a while to run and

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we're hoping we'll have we're not hoping

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we know we will but we'll have some

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helicopter footage too so when I get

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some goods I'll send it over to you at a

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post I would love to see it wait a

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minute wait a minute you know I love

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talking racecars I love anything that

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has a motor in it but did you just say

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new T yeah new teeth come in it is we

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should have it in about three weeks

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right before the race and it's going to

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be peppermint flavored peppermint

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flavors same formulation just with some

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taste yes correct yeah very interesting

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now in two weeks in two to three weeks

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yeah okay and it'll be on the what is it

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on the website now can people pre-order

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no no pre-ordering yet well I might work

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that out but I want to get it closer to

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like a week so they're not waiting in

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the balance for too long yeah somebody

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sent me an email it was like I think it

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was last month about pre-ordering your

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stuff you don't do that really do you

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know I don't and the only reason I don't

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is because a lot of times pre-ordering

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you know just I don't know I don't like

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having people's money and they don't

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have my product so that's that just

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maybe I'm weird that way right right no

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I I get that I get that but it seems

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like people I don't know why there are

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those out there that expect it you know

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and I don't have an answer for it I

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don't I don't allow pre-orders so yeah

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there you go now let's get let's get

369
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over to CBD

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a lot a lot of controversy around CBD

371
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right now on a couple of different

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fronts one of them is there our Big

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Pharma now has got a couple of drugs out

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that are CBD drugs yeah well they have

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their drug takes away 40 percent of

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epilepsy so and their drug is it's funny

377
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it's mostly CBD from and it's from

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marijuana with a little bit of this and

379
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that very little this and that so what

380
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they're wanting to do is shut out the

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CBD guys to say a you can't sell this

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because it's a drug and the FDA is

383
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course backing big pharma of course they

384
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would never want to back anything

385
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natural and normal and so it's kind of

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it's kind of funny and you know our CBD

387
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and this um for people to really

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understand CBD is derived from marijuana

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or CBD is derived from hemp and there's

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a difference

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usually the marijuana will carry THC and

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the hemp will not so ours tests out it

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zero zero three or actually it's tested

394
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out a lot less so for if you're worried

395
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about getting high then you want to get

396
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the CBD from hemp and it's you know I

397
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love it I mean it's it's incredible the

398
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reorders and so and the other thing I

399
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wanted to say Jimmy is a lot of people

400
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that have come to me from you they might

401
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say well cheese we tried to order but

402
00:23:07,180 --> 00:23:04,760
you know we got kicked out and our cards

403
00:23:08,770 --> 00:23:07,190
got kicked out and declined and we had

404
00:23:11,620 --> 00:23:08,780
the money and all that and you know what

405
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I apologize to everybody it was a stupid

406
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bank so it wasn't you it's because it

407
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goes to the UK and when it goes to the

408
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UK the banks kick it out your bank is

409
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kicking it out to protect you so it's a

410
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really kind of a cool thing it's dealing

411
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a non cool thing about it is you didn't

412
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get any CBD well now we changed and so

413
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we are in the United States yes and so

414
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you can order and you won't get declined

415
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so anyway just some good news how does

416
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that okay so you just said UK maybe I

417
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missed something there yeah

418
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well the banks are funky okay so our

419
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banking is you can't just sell CBD like

420
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you can sell tea or you can sell

421
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anything else

422
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there's a lot of you know it's it's

423
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considered high-risk it's considered you

424
00:24:04,669 --> 00:24:01,950
know so many things so the banks say hey

425
00:24:07,789 --> 00:24:04,679
since this is really under a huge debate

426
00:24:10,029 --> 00:24:07,799
with FDA and the DEA and just about

427
00:24:13,460 --> 00:24:10,039
every government entity which by the way

428
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,470
the farm bill has already the Senate and

429
00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:15,360
the house has already passed the CBD

430
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farm bill act so this is all good so

431
00:24:23,299 --> 00:24:20,330
we're just waiting for the final

432
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connection but long and the short of it

433
00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:25,679
is the bankers know that it's been hard

434
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for us to get banking so in other words

435
00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:29,190
hard for us to get companies to take

436
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your credit cards so they say since it's

437
00:24:35,779 --> 00:24:33,570
so hard and it's such so much stuff

438
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:35,789
around it we're gonna charge you ten

439
00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:38,010
twelve fifteen percent some of them

440
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:40,679
twenty percent which if you had a normal

441
00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:42,659
account might be four percent or five

442
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percent so it's really it's been a rat

443
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race and we've been through hell and

444
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:52,740
back but I I would not even do this but

445
00:24:59,779 --> 00:24:57,210
the benefits of CBD are so crazy

446
00:25:02,060 --> 00:24:59,789
I'll tell just a real quick story so I

447
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:02,070
have a dog obviously we know we all and

448
00:25:04,879 --> 00:25:04,500
I have this little dog her name is Miss

449
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Piggy

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she's shar-pei and hound dog so she

451
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:08,850
looks like a little pig and she got this

452
00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:10,950
growth underneath her tummy and this

453
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:12,630
growth got bigger and bigger and was

454
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kind of a pretty good size about the

455
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size between a nickel and a quarter and

456
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:21,510
probably half to 3/4 inch tall so I know

457
00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:23,490
they definitely said it was cancerous

458
00:25:26,629 --> 00:25:24,840
you need to take this off right away and

459
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I don't like my dogs under anesthesia

460
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:28,529
especially the shar-pei because it's

461
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they they died I've lost two Shar Peis

462
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:33,299
so with this being in the balance I said

463
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I decided to get a little doggie biscuit

464
00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:39,690
get my CBD out started putting CBD and

465
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doggie biscuits now I kid you not it

466
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:44,549
took a little while it took about a

467
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month and that CBD has eaten almost and

468
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:51,360
it she said it was cancer so whatever

469
00:25:55,370 --> 00:25:53,130
you want to call it but it was a big

470
00:25:58,519 --> 00:25:55,380
growth like a tumor kind of thing and

471
00:26:00,409 --> 00:25:58,529
that CBD has eaten it alive and so it's

472
00:26:04,399 --> 00:26:00,419
almost flat now you can see it where it

473
00:26:06,889 --> 00:26:04,409
is but it's almost flat so kind of it

474
00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:06,899
kind of took my vet back too so that

475
00:26:12,290 --> 00:26:08,070
gives you an idea

476
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,300
what what is the international

477
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considerations of when it comes to CBD

478
00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:16,950
how are other countries looking at it do

479
00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:21,030
you ship internationally I do not just

480
00:26:24,860 --> 00:26:22,680
the United States as soon as I can get

481
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,870
all the legal ramifications to be good

482
00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:26,820
to go which is going to take a little

483
00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:29,400
while I will open up the Gateway and say

484
00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:31,860
come get ancient life oil in the UK

485
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,460
Australia wherever you know Japan all

486
00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:37,440
this but right now we are just limited

487
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:39,300
United States I heard it we're getting

488
00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:41,910
there with Canada but I still got to do

489
00:26:45,050 --> 00:26:43,590
my homework and make sure and and you

490
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:45,060
even we don't even have 50 states we

491
00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:48,510
have 49 Nebraska is still like you know

492
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:50,520
so they're they're not making them legal

493
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:52,140
so you guys in Nebraska you're gonna

494
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:53,490
have to go talk to your friends maybe

495
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:56,330
over in Colorado or Illinois or wherever

496
00:27:01,040 --> 00:26:59,760
I just not Illinois Iowa but you're

497
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:01,050
gonna have to talk to your friends and

498
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:03,090
do it that way but long and short of

499
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:04,260
we're trying really hard to get to

500
00:27:12,620 --> 00:27:08,010
everybody the the other parts of it

501
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:12,630
where I recently was sent I couldn't

502
00:27:18,290 --> 00:27:15,210
believe it it came in on one of my email

503
00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:18,300
accounts from Google giving me a list of

504
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:22,830
banned things right and it was crazy -

505
00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:26,990
it was a long list of stuff and which

506
00:27:32,770 --> 00:27:29,160
whatever you know I can understand that

507
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:32,780
but then right there out of all of these

508
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:36,960
products and some of them were medical

509
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:38,610
some were not they were they could have

510
00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:41,670
been tools or whatever you use but their

511
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,470
CBD was listed and I don't understand

512
00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:48,720
when it's legal in all 50 states I

513
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:50,700
understand the federal implications of

514
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:53,490
it but now big pharma is now moving

515
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:56,400
forward with it oh yeah and the FDA is

516
00:28:00,380 --> 00:27:58,890
so behind them oh this is so great it's

517
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:00,390
gonna heal people and they didn't see

518
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:02,010
heal but they you know it's gonna help

519
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:04,380
people epilepsy you know blah blah well

520
00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:06,090
what do you think the straight does just

521
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:07,590
ask you that so what do you think the

522
00:28:12,260 --> 00:28:10,050
straight does the thing I like I said I

523
00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:12,270
wouldn't even mess with this company cuz

524
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:14,400
it's a big pain in the rear but let me

525
00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:16,110
tell you something what it does for

526
00:28:21,370 --> 00:28:19,920
people is over-the-top and remember my

527
00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:21,380
dog's story and

528
00:28:27,070 --> 00:28:23,750
people say you have you have you know

529
00:28:28,930 --> 00:28:27,080
CBD for pets yes how is it different I'm

530
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:28,940
gonna even answer this right now how is

531
00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:30,650
it different from the ones that the

532
00:28:36,220 --> 00:28:34,400
humans have it's the same yeah right

533
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:36,230
of course it's just a picture on the

534
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,310
bottle except they don't do chocolate

535
00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:42,320
mint or sentiment I don't do that for

536
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:43,880
the dogs because they you know I just

537
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give him the natural the the cinnamon

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breath from my doggy

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that is too funny well I've got a few

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dogs that could actually use that and I

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had said to you today it was weird

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Rita and I so we ran out right we run

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out of CBD and after about a week I mean

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which was last night I'm like feeling

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you know like a little cranky I was like

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man and and so I couldn't even squeeze a

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drop out of the bottle and I told Rita

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so today I'm just gonna go downstairs

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and eat a couple spoonfuls of honey I

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got it's who I got to do something here

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my body is screaming for it and it is

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it's an astonishing thing for me to go

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through Ronnie because I you have helped

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me over the last a couple of years that

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you have been with us you have helped me

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change myself not only through the teas

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and through you know pine bark which I

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have here and an olive leaf which I have

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here and the GI joy which I you know and

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I take these every single day and the

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transformation has been absolutely

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amazing but then when I run out I panic

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you know and I panicked last night I'm

564
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like I you know I have a jar of honey

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little jars 50 bucks right so what did

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they call it manuka honey

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am i saying it wrong mucuna honey I

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don't know it's some crazy stuff from

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New Zealand and

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but I I literally have people and this

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is funny I literally have people they'll

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order the tea and they'll do priority

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and they'll do you know overnight they

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wanted overnight and I go I thinking to

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myself you're gonna pay all this money

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for overnight because it's pricey

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because you need the tea which is good

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that's Craig but why didn't you order

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two week ago right where you could just

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get it for you know just the cheap

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shipping or whatever right or why don't

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you order three months worth or six

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months worth or whatever get a deal and

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and have it there but but they don't

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know I you know it's like that's fine

586
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you know that's what you want to do but

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that's like somebody going into a brand

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new dealership of Mercedes dealership

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and saying I want the car and I'll pay

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you full price I just can't even imagine

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stuff like I know I know

592
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well last night I was there I was I was

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right there I was right there and I know

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what my body needs now and it's the

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other things too is well running that

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I've eliminated from my diet it's it's

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it's it's crazy there's things that I

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won't let go of I'm never gonna get rid

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of great Italian food great Mexican food

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I'm not gonna there's things I'm not

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going to give up but sodas done I mean I

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just don't it's been it's been a few

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years and that'sthat's pretty crazy for

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me to even talk like that but there's

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just I've changed and it's something

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that once you plug your mind into and

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you start to see the transition you know

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it takes a few months but when you see

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it you realize you know and you've got

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to start taking care of yourself none of

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us are 20 years old anymore well you're

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gonna be excited because the rumor is

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still cooking that get the tea is going

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to bottle I know I know I haven't talked

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about that yet oh it's a kun a-- Matata

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honey yeah that's what reads a disney

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you're on the top it's amazing

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oh it's amazing it's really amazing yeah

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comes from one specific flower in New

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Zealand with a specific kind of bee it's

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a seasonal it's all of these cut but Wow

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and it looks like peanut butter it's not

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clear right it just it's just so you

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understand it's the good stuff you well

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we're all used to right sube honey right

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it's squeezed out of that that bear

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bottle or whatever it is and it this is

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it's it's thick and it's like looks like

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peanut butter that's the best way to

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describe it well listen Ronnie I got to

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dr. Lisa Gallardo is a socio-cultural

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anthropologist futurist media scholar

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and contact experiencer since childhood

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Lisa began her career as a linguist in

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the US Army followed by undergraduate

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and graduate work at UC Berkeley and the

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University of Waikato in New Zealand

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she spent 25 years in the tech industry

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working on groundbreaking and

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award-winning projects related to the

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internet media video games virtual

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worlds and a number of community and

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educational projects in recent years she

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has worked as a design researcher on

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projects for Microsoft Amazon dozens of

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other tech and media companies Lisa has

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been in constant telepathic contact with

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her with her team of guides for the last

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several years and has been assisting

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with disclosure Excel politics XO

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consciousness efforts using a wide range

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of psychic creative and technical

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talents she's the co-founder of the

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disclosure activist and that is

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disclosure activist or guy would like to

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welcome for the first time to fade to

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black

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dr. Lisa Gallardo dr. Lisa good evening

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how are you I'm great Jimmy thank you so

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much for having me it's great to hear

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your voice and you get the first-time

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guests disclaimer are you ready I'm

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ready which is this it's just you and I

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sitting on my couch having a

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conversation as friends and where that

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conversation starts it starts where it

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ends it ends what we're gonna and his

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friends there you go

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I love that that's wonder yeah it's so

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funny when I have a first-time guess on

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and I hit him with that - like what I

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didn't know this is coming but yeah you

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know and the first-time guests are

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important on the show and we have spent

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so much time with our team here to find

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fresh voices the best and the brightest

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and and so that's why it's so important

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the first time cuz I just want them to

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be comfortable you know let's just do

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this and and we'll see where the starts

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and we'll see where it ends but it's all

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good you know that's great I'm really

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honored to to be talking to you and to

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your audience so it sounds great let's

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go well you've got you've got I want to

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talk a little bit will do your childhood

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in the next segment because we're gonna

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go back and visit those subjects but on

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the professional side I want to talk

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about your background in your

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credentials because when we are talking

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about things like Microsoft and Amazon

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and futurist and and the army and and

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you know graduate studies that's a

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pretty good CV it's a great CV but it's

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also something that we don't see that

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often here in our community so tell us

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about your background and linguist and

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and futurist and and working with these

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companies before we talk about what

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brought you here

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sure well I was born in 1969 which was

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in the same month in fact that the

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internet went online for the first time

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it was what was called ARPANET Ord

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ARPANET and there were four nodes at

805
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:24,069
four universities I was born in Northern

806
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:26,950
California you know I ended up having

807
00:42:32,999 --> 00:42:29,380
you know access to great educational

808
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:33,009
opportunities in Northern California but

809
00:42:38,009 --> 00:42:34,930
you know I lived a fairly normal

810
00:42:40,229 --> 00:42:38,019
childhood except for you know some of

811
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,239
these contact experiences I was having

812
00:42:44,789 --> 00:42:41,920
that you know I honestly didn't take all

813
00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:44,799
that seriously and you know I'll see my

814
00:42:48,509 --> 00:42:46,420
childhood was normal on the one hand but

815
00:42:50,370 --> 00:42:48,519
on the other hand you know there was

816
00:42:51,269 --> 00:42:50,380
some abuse and stuff going on at home

817
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:51,279
and

818
00:42:57,989 --> 00:42:55,089
I had a need to leave that situation as

819
00:42:59,669 --> 00:42:57,999
soon as I possibly could so I spent my

820
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,679
last year of high school as an exchange

821
00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:01,839
student in Chile and I actually had sort

822
00:43:08,609 --> 00:43:03,880
of a major UFO sighting while I was in

823
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:08,619
Chile as well so this was in 1986 1987

824
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:11,169
and then when I came home from Chile I

825
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:14,169
graduated from high school and almost

826
00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:16,150
immediately within a couple of months I

827
00:43:21,509 --> 00:43:18,939
had joined the army as a linguist you

828
00:43:24,359 --> 00:43:21,519
know which is something that you know

829
00:43:26,279 --> 00:43:24,369
smart kids who you know are joining the

830
00:43:29,759 --> 00:43:26,289
military you know have the option to do

831
00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:29,769
or did at that time and because you know

832
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:32,140
it was the Cold War era the official

833
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:35,380
Cold War era I was given the option of a

834
00:43:41,069 --> 00:43:37,599
couple of different languages I already

835
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,079
spoke about three languages at the time

836
00:43:46,259 --> 00:43:43,599
so I scored you know quite well on the

837
00:43:47,729 --> 00:43:46,269
entrance exams and that sort of thing

838
00:43:50,339 --> 00:43:47,739
and they offered me the possibility of

839
00:43:52,529 --> 00:43:50,349
learning Russian so after basic training

840
00:43:55,499 --> 00:43:52,539
I went to the Defense Language Institute

841
00:43:58,499 --> 00:43:55,509
in Monterey which is very well known you

842
00:44:00,209 --> 00:43:58,509
know for being a facility for people who

843
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:00,219
are learning languages who are in any

844
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:02,890
branch of the armed services at the sign

845
00:44:06,209 --> 00:44:04,329
out front of our in front of our

846
00:44:10,019 --> 00:44:06,219
barracks said we're learning Russian so

847
00:44:12,059 --> 00:44:10,029
you don't have to and we wore t-shirts

848
00:44:14,909 --> 00:44:12,069
around that said that sort of thing but

849
00:44:16,409 --> 00:44:14,919
I only spent about a year and a half in

850
00:44:17,939 --> 00:44:16,419
the military because I ended up being

851
00:44:20,789 --> 00:44:17,949
injured and they offered me the

852
00:44:22,529 --> 00:44:20,799
opportunity you know to be discharged

853
00:44:23,819 --> 00:44:22,539
and I decided at that point I was ready

854
00:44:25,859 --> 00:44:23,829
to you know start going to college

855
00:44:28,409 --> 00:44:25,869
because you know my kind of

856
00:44:31,709 --> 00:44:28,419
working-class family was all about the

857
00:44:33,209 --> 00:44:31,719
education so I was very focused and in

858
00:44:35,099 --> 00:44:33,219
fact my grandfather only went to school

859
00:44:37,709 --> 00:44:35,109
through the second grade he was from

860
00:44:40,499 --> 00:44:37,719
Arkansas so so it was a big thing

861
00:44:42,509 --> 00:44:40,509
education in my family so I spent a

862
00:44:45,089 --> 00:44:42,519
while at Community College in Sacramento

863
00:44:46,919 --> 00:44:45,099
I then transferred to UC Berkeley where

864
00:44:47,609 --> 00:44:46,929
I had no idea what I was going to do

865
00:44:50,489 --> 00:44:47,619
with myself

866
00:44:52,709 --> 00:44:50,499
but I started out studying linguistics

867
00:44:54,419 --> 00:44:52,719
switched to Slavic languages and

868
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:54,429
literatures and was studying Soviet

869
00:44:58,709 --> 00:44:56,650
culture and propaganda and just all this

870
00:45:01,620 --> 00:44:58,719
kind of stuff related to the Soviet

871
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:01,630
Union and then the the Berlin Wall fell

872
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:03,609
and the Soviet Union sort of fell apart

873
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:05,190
and I decided at that point

874
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:06,960
I would switch gears and I kind of

875
00:45:10,819 --> 00:45:08,460
looked through the course catalog and I

876
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:10,829
was trying to figure out how you know

877
00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:12,329
what am I going to change my major to

878
00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:14,819
and still graduate on time and it turns

879
00:45:18,740 --> 00:45:16,740
out I had taken a ton of anthropology

880
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:18,750
classes and a lot of them were related

881
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:21,270
to spirituality and religion and the

882
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:22,980
geography of religion and spirituality

883
00:45:27,950 --> 00:45:25,950
and cosmology and you know I was just

884
00:45:31,309 --> 00:45:27,960
kind of trying to figure out how it all

885
00:45:32,990 --> 00:45:31,319
works and how my experiences fit so my

886
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:33,000
undergrad graduate degree was in

887
00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:34,890
anthropology and I graduated from

888
00:45:39,470 --> 00:45:37,380
Berkeley in 93 which was the same year

889
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:39,480
the first graphical web browser came out

890
00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:41,810
I don't know if you remember this Jimmy

891
00:45:47,809 --> 00:45:45,990
yeah I was there yes Netscape and all of

892
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:47,819
that and we went from you know our kind

893
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:51,180
of green screen text-based Internet you

894
00:45:55,609 --> 00:45:52,800
know the pre graphical Internet which

895
00:45:57,710 --> 00:45:55,619
was very interesting you know and useful

896
00:45:59,329 --> 00:45:57,720
at the time but oh the graphical

897
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,339
Internet I just thought that was the

898
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:00,960
best thing ever

899
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:02,700
and I have kind of a funny story I don't

900
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,050
know if this happened to you but I

901
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:06,000
remember getting on the graphical web

902
00:46:10,099 --> 00:46:08,010
very early right after that first

903
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:10,109
browser came out and I went looking for

904
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:12,930
websites and I swear I could only find

905
00:46:18,620 --> 00:46:15,390
20 or 30 websites I spent several hours

906
00:46:20,839 --> 00:46:18,630
finding every website I could and I

907
00:46:25,579 --> 00:46:20,849
remember just thinking to myself oh we

908
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,589
need more internet so that's kind of you

909
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,839
know set the stage for everything I've

910
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,040
done ever since

911
00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:31,380
so I've done a whole variety of things

912
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:33,420
you know I started out kind of doing

913
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:34,890
graphic design and desktop publishing

914
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:39,420
and technical support and I worked in a

915
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:41,250
variety of sort of you know hardcore

916
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:44,520
back in technical jobs I was working for

917
00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:48,390
a systems integrator who were resellers

918
00:46:51,859 --> 00:46:50,310
for Sun Microsystems equipment and

919
00:46:53,450 --> 00:46:51,869
Netscape equipment if you know any of

920
00:46:56,540 --> 00:46:53,460
these names UNIX space systems

921
00:46:59,359 --> 00:46:56,550
essentially and I had several of these

922
00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:59,369
very technical jobs and then round about

923
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:01,800
the mid 90s to the late 90s I started

924
00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:03,390
getting involved with more kind of

925
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:05,400
creative and interactive and marketing

926
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:08,520
agencies who were doing kind of exciting

927
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:11,460
work that was combining like the best of

928
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:13,650
graphic design and back in design and

929
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:15,450
different kinds of things so I kind of

930
00:47:17,890 --> 00:47:17,130
switched to what I would call the front

931
00:47:20,050 --> 00:47:17,900
end

932
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:20,060
and now my specialty is what we call

933
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:22,970
user experience design which is

934
00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:25,280
basically what it sounds like but what

935
00:47:29,140 --> 00:47:27,260
researchers in this area do is they're

936
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:29,150
embedded with software development teams

937
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:31,730
and we're part of the process of kind of

938
00:47:36,670 --> 00:47:34,430
conceiving and you know beginning

939
00:47:39,550 --> 00:47:36,680
projects and kind of designing and

940
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:39,560
building out projects and then we're in

941
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:43,040
the process throughout as the software

942
00:47:47,620 --> 00:47:44,690
is being developed so that we can then

943
00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:47,630
you know test it with audiences to see

944
00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:48,830
if we're doing the right thing it's a

945
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:51,560
lot like audience research in you know

946
00:47:55,810 --> 00:47:53,510
the movie industry yeah it's got to be

947
00:47:59,380 --> 00:47:55,820
very very similar and you've got to be

948
00:48:01,810 --> 00:47:59,390
able to get that interaction back for

949
00:48:04,540 --> 00:48:01,820
the user experience and the user

950
00:48:07,420 --> 00:48:04,550
interface because you could spend a lot

951
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:07,430
of development time on something that

952
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:09,290
just nobody's gonna care about over

953
00:48:16,090 --> 00:48:12,590
losing Kristen or not be attracted to or

954
00:48:21,490 --> 00:48:16,100
get bored with or or or or yeah you've

955
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:21,500
got to go through that there's exactly

956
00:48:25,540 --> 00:48:23,390
what happens and it's a it's a small

957
00:48:27,730 --> 00:48:25,550
investment to make and it you know can

958
00:48:29,860 --> 00:48:27,740
have a really great payoff the reason I

959
00:48:32,290 --> 00:48:29,870
personally enjoy doing this work so much

960
00:48:34,030 --> 00:48:32,300
is that I spent a lot of time working it

961
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,040
on projects it I worked for Tower

962
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:36,640
Records comm for a while before tower

963
00:48:43,150 --> 00:48:40,310
went belly-up and you know I was finding

964
00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:43,160
it really difficult to get you know the

965
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:44,870
other executives that I was working with

966
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:46,730
to kind of do the right thing by the

967
00:48:52,690 --> 00:48:50,330
user and I found out that you know

968
00:48:55,450 --> 00:48:52,700
coming to them with tangible evidence

969
00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:55,460
about what users were experiencing what

970
00:48:59,410 --> 00:48:56,750
their problems were and what they were

971
00:49:02,050 --> 00:48:59,420
trying to do was the best way for me to

972
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:02,060
have an impact so I thought it's it's

973
00:49:06,820 --> 00:49:04,250
actually quite strategic work even

974
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,830
though it might not seem so and it's

975
00:49:10,690 --> 00:49:08,720
very satisfying you know I'm an advocate

976
00:49:13,660 --> 00:49:10,700
for the user is essentially it's called

977
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:13,670
voice of the customer research so I'm an

978
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:15,650
advocate for int users and the whole

979
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:19,130
time my my job is to say this works

980
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:22,250
great this doesn't work great we can do

981
00:49:26,650 --> 00:49:24,680
better let's do better so yes like

982
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:26,660
should give you an idea of the kind of

983
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:29,210
work that I do but I also do other kinds

984
00:49:31,450 --> 00:49:31,310
of research I do incites research I did

985
00:51:01,900 --> 00:49:31,460
a

986
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:01,910
we would do this you know sometimes you

987
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:04,310
know for four hours at a time so it's

988
00:51:08,830 --> 00:51:06,410
just fascinating to me the way people

989
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:08,840
can come together on the internet and

990
00:51:14,350 --> 00:51:11,950
figure out ways to be really productive

991
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:14,360
we call them in kind of learning

992
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:17,570
Sciences circles week we call these

993
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:19,250
things communities of practice or

994
00:51:23,980 --> 00:51:21,770
communities of learning yeah I went

995
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:23,990
through the whole gaming thing still do

996
00:51:31,570 --> 00:51:27,850
I've you know I've got a ps4 but I

997
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:31,580
certainly early on when things started

998
00:51:45,810 --> 00:51:41,560
Diablo Diablo 2 I played a lot of Diablo

999
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:45,820
Diablo - I played that game to finish

1000
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:48,350
probably a dozen times

1001
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:51,920
but it was a great game great different

1002
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:54,710
at the time yeah and command & Conquer

1003
00:51:59,100 --> 00:51:57,110
and all of those so there's a real-time

1004
00:52:02,830 --> 00:51:59,110
strategy games I love games like that

1005
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:02,840
and the totally immersive way that Tomb

1006
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:09,050
Raider approached that that world also I

1007
00:52:15,370 --> 00:52:14,000
really got into missed and and and ooh

1008
00:52:18,190 --> 00:52:15,380
oh man

1009
00:52:19,930 --> 00:52:18,200
so like groundbreaking games those games

1010
00:52:22,270 --> 00:52:19,940
were all groundbreaking tzompantli

1011
00:52:27,550 --> 00:52:22,280
groundbreaking and to this day I mean

1012
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:27,560
who ruined missed they still are part of

1013
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:31,520
my dreamscape III can go right there but

1014
00:52:36,490 --> 00:52:34,700
this is where okay when you're when

1015
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:36,500
you're you play these games so much and

1016
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:38,030
then you're dreaming about the games and

1017
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:39,110
then you're waking up with a new

1018
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,730
solution to something you're trying to

1019
00:52:45,340 --> 00:52:42,800
solve oh you should have written in one

1020
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:45,350
of my cars when I'm driving the streets

1021
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:47,810
of LA after playing Gran Turismo for

1022
00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:51,320
eight hours but this is where before we

1023
00:52:56,410 --> 00:52:53,540
hit the top of the hour this is

1024
00:53:00,220 --> 00:52:56,420
something else that is interesting for

1025
00:53:04,510 --> 00:53:00,230
you and your career in that quantum

1026
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:04,520
computing parallel worlds and what is

1027
00:53:12,910 --> 00:53:06,800
going on in that aspect with the qubit

1028
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:12,920
and these CEOs and heads of corporations

1029
00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:15,260
up there in Silicon Valley's you know

1030
00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:16,550
over the last couple of years have

1031
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,680
started to talk about this this binary

1032
00:53:24,030 --> 00:53:21,200
world the simulated universe the

1033
00:53:27,580 --> 00:53:24,040
possibility of of us living in

1034
00:53:32,170 --> 00:53:27,590
assimilation and this red and still that

1035
00:53:34,750 --> 00:53:32,180
hasn't stopped did you get involved in

1036
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:34,760
any of that chatter in your work

1037
00:53:43,810 --> 00:53:38,330
environment well some of that I can't

1038
00:53:45,970 --> 00:53:43,820
tell you Jimmy that there is some very

1039
00:53:49,060 --> 00:53:45,980
interesting work going on that's at the

1040
00:53:52,060 --> 00:53:49,070
kind of intersection of what I might

1041
00:53:53,860 --> 00:53:52,070
call consciousness science and the work

1042
00:53:55,470 --> 00:53:53,870
that I do with the dr. Edgar Mitchell

1043
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:55,480
foundation for Reese

1044
00:53:59,720 --> 00:53:57,370
- extraterrestrial and extraordinary

1045
00:54:01,950 --> 00:53:59,730
encounters they're also called free

1046
00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:01,960
which was founded by dr. Edgar Mitchell

1047
00:54:08,550 --> 00:54:04,470
of course who also founded the Institute

1048
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:08,560
for the noetic Sciences who are constant

1049
00:54:14,490 --> 00:54:10,630
consciousness research organization a

1050
00:54:16,830 --> 00:54:14,500
scientific organization like free and it

1051
00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:16,840
turns out that there are organizations

1052
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:21,070
like Google who are very interested in

1053
00:54:25,650 --> 00:54:23,050
these kind of new interfaces if you

1054
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:25,660
think about augmented reality and

1055
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:28,330
virtual reality and this actually goes

1056
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:30,850
back a little bit of time because Deepak

1057
00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:33,310
Chopra was may it made a couple of games

1058
00:54:40,170 --> 00:54:37,000
for the Kinect the Microsoft Xbox Kinect

1059
00:54:41,970 --> 00:54:40,180
when it first came out that were you

1060
00:54:44,610 --> 00:54:41,980
know relying on kind of neurofeedback

1061
00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:44,620
principles and so they're looking at a

1062
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:48,040
lot of new kind of interfaces there's

1063
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:49,450
one thing that just came out recently

1064
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:51,850
that there's a company that's developed

1065
00:54:56,850 --> 00:54:54,790
something that's an interface for your

1066
00:54:59,610 --> 00:54:56,860
other devices but where you don't have

1067
00:55:03,090 --> 00:54:59,620
to speak a command you can just say the

1068
00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:03,100
command in your head and it will

1069
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:06,550
activate the device so you know I know

1070
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:09,190
about some of the projects like that a

1071
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:12,070
little bit more interfer matt echnology

1072
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:14,680
perspective but I've certainly done a

1073
00:55:19,890 --> 00:55:17,400
lot of research and and have a fairly

1074
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I'd call it a general understanding of

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:22,150
the conceptual understanding of you know

1076
00:55:26,610 --> 00:55:24,130
this idea of the multiverse and

1077
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:26,620
multidimensionality and kind of where we

1078
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:29,050
fit in all of that and I tend to think

1079
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:30,670
about all of these things like

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00:55:34,980 --> 00:55:32,560
consciousness consciousness to me is the

1081
00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:34,990
cosmic Internet and we are all nodes on

1082
00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:37,240
the you know the internet or you know

1083
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:39,070
it's kind of like you know the fact that

1084
00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:42,400
I talk you know to my team of guides you

1085
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:45,120
know using consciousness as a vehicle

1086
00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:48,010
you know everyone is capable of doing

1087
00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:49,750
this and you know so my metaphor is

1088
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:52,030
usually well it's like people who have

1089
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:54,370
ham radios in the day and you know

1090
00:55:58,110 --> 00:55:56,050
somebody with a ham radio would say oh

1091
00:56:00,510 --> 00:55:58,120
my god I started talking to someone in

1092
00:56:03,570 --> 00:56:00,520
Timbuktu and it was so great and

1093
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:03,580
everybody's like what how is that

1094
00:56:08,490 --> 00:56:04,690
possible

1095
00:56:08,970 --> 00:56:08,500
but dude's got a radio and he's talking

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00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:08,980
all

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00:56:12,330 --> 00:56:10,420
sorts of people or my grandfather had a

1098
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:12,340
CB in his pickup truck and we used to

1099
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:14,650
talk to all sorts of people so you know

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00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:16,930
it's very much that same you know kind

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00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:19,630
of paradigm and you know to speak to

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00:56:24,210 --> 00:56:21,369
your point when we think about it from a

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:24,220
digital perspective rather than an

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00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:25,930
analogue perspective and we think about

1105
00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:28,150
everything being digital and therefore

1106
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:30,790
yeah this is just one big virtual world

1107
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:33,400
and there are people who are developers

1108
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:36,730
and programmers and producers and

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00:56:42,930 --> 00:56:39,550
artists and all kinds of people who work

1110
00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:42,940
on our project this virtual world and

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00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:45,100
they're the people who are you know on

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00:56:50,250 --> 00:56:47,230
what we would call the other side of the

1113
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,260
veil but there are a lot of people you

1114
00:56:54,359 --> 00:56:52,000
know in contact you know with these

1115
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:54,369
beans in one way or another and you know

1116
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,130
I just happen to be one of them now what

1117
00:57:02,460 --> 00:56:59,680
would I find interesting we've got a few

1118
00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:02,470
minutes before the break I can

1119
00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:04,630
understand building a neural interface

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00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,990
which I know that DARPA and Sandia have

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00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:10,000
already completed that's that that's

1122
00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:12,190
fine I know that that technology exists

1123
00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:16,440
and downloading our memories and

1124
00:57:24,030 --> 00:57:20,320
thoughts things that are stored onto a

1125
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:24,040
drive is possible I totally get that but

1126
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:27,310
what about the soul that makes us us is

1127
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:31,690
is that transferable to to live in the

1128
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:34,480
virtual world oh yes so we're

1129
00:57:39,470 --> 00:57:37,030
essentially jacked into a reality you

1130
00:57:43,050 --> 00:57:39,480
know just like people are in the matrix

1131
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:43,060
or in you know avatar right so they kind

1132
00:57:48,450 --> 00:57:45,910
of jack into that reality and it's about

1133
00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:48,460
that the soul is the being that's jacked

1134
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:51,430
into this reality and the interface is

1135
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:54,970
the human body and the human brain but

1136
00:58:01,710 --> 00:57:57,609
the mind is a combination of things that

1137
00:58:03,930 --> 00:58:01,720
are produced via the human brain and you

1138
00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:03,940
know via the the greater mind and

1139
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:07,060
because consciousness is one great field

1140
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:09,640
and because we're all interconnected I'd

1141
00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:11,170
really encourage your listeners who are

1142
00:58:17,370 --> 00:58:13,960
interested in this to look up some talks

1143
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:17,380
by say Rupert Sheldrake has done a lot

1144
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:18,910
of talks about the evidence for

1145
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:21,839
telepathy and he talks a lot about tulip

1146
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:24,809
the insects and animals and behaviors

1147
00:58:30,769 --> 00:58:28,729
that are synchronized behaviors I wrote

1148
00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:30,779
investigated a lot of that stuff when I

1149
00:58:36,109 --> 00:58:33,660
was working on my doctoral work because

1150
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:36,119
I was very interested in principles of

1151
00:58:41,689 --> 00:58:39,209
self-organization and emergence you know

1152
00:58:43,249 --> 00:58:41,699
so the emergence of an intelligence

1153
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:43,259
that's greater than the sum of its parts

1154
00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:46,529
you know you can have these hive mind

1155
00:58:51,229 --> 00:58:48,269
configurations or these swarm

1156
00:58:53,089 --> 00:58:51,239
intelligences that exhibit those

1157
00:58:56,209 --> 00:58:53,099
behaviors you might call like it's the

1158
00:58:58,219 --> 00:58:56,219
wisdom of crowds so I was really

1159
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:58,229
interested in in a kind of a lot of

1160
00:59:04,189 --> 00:59:02,160
those ideas and you know I think the

1161
00:59:05,509 --> 00:59:04,199
first hurdle a lot of people need to get

1162
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:05,519
over because there's this kind of

1163
00:59:09,380 --> 00:59:07,650
scientific truth embargo about you know

1164
00:59:11,779 --> 00:59:09,390
that's all about establishment science

1165
00:59:14,539 --> 00:59:11,789
and a lot of this French stuff it's just

1166
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:14,549
kind of rejected without people even

1167
00:59:20,029 --> 00:59:17,849
really knowing the evidence so I find

1168
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:20,039
you know that getting people to wrap

1169
00:59:25,429 --> 00:59:22,619
their heads around the idea that you

1170
00:59:27,949 --> 00:59:25,439
know no telepathy and ESP you know

1171
00:59:30,769 --> 00:59:27,959
weren't debunked with Uri Geller in the

1172
00:59:32,299 --> 00:59:30,779
1970s which is where a lot of people's

1173
00:59:33,620 --> 00:59:32,309
heads are at you know people who aren't

1174
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:33,630
like listening to your show on a regular

1175
00:59:39,279 --> 00:59:37,410
basis so there's a lot of just you know

1176
00:59:41,630 --> 00:59:39,289
there are a lot of really fascinating

1177
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:41,640
developments with a lot of researchers

1178
00:59:45,049 --> 00:59:43,529
who are all over the world you know some

1179
00:59:47,809 --> 00:59:45,059
who haven't had an opportunity to

1180
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:47,819
publish their research yet but there's

1181
00:59:52,219 --> 00:59:50,130
are some amazing beings you know doing

1182
01:00:00,019 --> 00:59:52,229
some amazing things there's a guy who

1183
01:00:02,689 --> 01:00:00,029
can cite 22,000 numbers of Pi and he can

1184
01:00:05,479 --> 01:00:02,699
just keep reciting numbers of Pi like

1185
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:05,489
endlessly and the way he apparently does

1186
01:00:11,179 --> 01:00:07,529
it he's what you might call an autistic

1187
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,189
savant and he has synesthesia so he

1188
01:00:17,150 --> 01:00:13,920
apparently receives these different

1189
01:00:19,729 --> 01:00:17,160
colors in a pattern and the colors each

1190
01:00:21,919 --> 01:00:19,739
represent a different number so he knows

1191
01:00:24,769 --> 01:00:21,929
for instance one is red and two as

1192
01:00:26,959 --> 01:00:24,779
yellow and three is green kind of thing

1193
01:00:29,749 --> 01:00:26,969
and he just gets kind of a movie or a

1194
01:00:32,029 --> 01:00:29,759
parade of these colors and he just

1195
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:32,039
rattles off the numbers so he's getting

1196
01:00:35,370 --> 01:00:34,319
that from you know a team of people that

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01:00:38,009 --> 01:00:35,380
he's talking

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01:00:41,940 --> 01:00:38,019
to buy his not people on earth I mean

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01:00:45,420 --> 01:00:41,950
extra-dimensional people I've seen I've

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01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:45,430
seen the documentary it's unbelievable

1201
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:46,809
yeah what people are doing with their

1202
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:49,569
minds right now is just off the charts

1203
01:00:53,490 --> 01:00:51,849
and what some of these kids and young

1204
01:00:54,930 --> 01:00:53,500
people are doing and you know they've

1205
01:00:57,299 --> 01:00:54,940
grown up digital they've grown up with

1206
01:00:59,819 --> 01:00:57,309
the Internet they don't perceive any of

1207
01:01:01,980 --> 01:00:59,829
the limitations that you and I might

1208
01:01:05,549 --> 01:01:01,990
have you know growing up in the 70s and

1209
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:05,559
80s you know I had my first computer at

1210
01:01:10,759 --> 01:01:08,160
15 but it wasn't on the Internet

1211
01:01:13,019 --> 01:01:10,769
so you know when people have

1212
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:13,029
neuroplastic minds and when they grow up

1213
01:01:17,549 --> 01:01:14,890
with these digital technologies it's

1214
01:01:20,490 --> 01:01:17,559
just it's literally a quantum leap you

1215
01:01:22,499 --> 01:01:20,500
know beyond what a lot of other people

1216
01:01:25,710 --> 01:01:22,509
might be experiencing which is exciting

1217
01:01:27,569 --> 01:01:25,720
for Humanity and you know I'm I'm really

1218
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:27,579
happy about it you know we can solve our

1219
01:01:33,269 --> 01:01:29,410
intractable problems and then we've got

1220
01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:33,279
you know generations of people you know

1221
01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:34,839
who are being born and who are growing

1222
01:01:39,299 --> 01:01:36,849
up who are world changers and you know

1223
01:01:42,809 --> 01:01:39,309
game changers as your radio network is

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01:01:44,759 --> 01:01:42,819
called that's a great segue for us to

1225
01:01:47,819 --> 01:01:44,769
take a break right here our guest

1226
01:01:51,210 --> 01:01:47,829
tonight dr. Lisa Gill are now and when

1227
01:01:53,819 --> 01:01:51,220
we come back we're gonna jump in to her

1228
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:53,829
work in the disclosure movement we're

1229
01:01:58,499 --> 01:01:56,410
gonna do all of that tonight I'll be

1230
01:02:00,749 --> 01:01:58,509
right back stay with us after this short

1231
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:00,759
break I'm your Jimmy Church on the game

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01:02:06,839 --> 01:02:03,210
changer network and kgr a the planet

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more with dr. Lisa calar now right up to

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welcome back fade to black humming Oh

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Scooby Church our guest tonight dr. Lisa

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galore now we're talking about the

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yeah it's pretty cool it's pretty cool

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oh your last name is great but dr. Lisa

1315
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:36,390
has got a zing to it the disclosure with

1316
01:06:43,579 --> 01:06:39,770
your career and your background

1317
01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:43,589
something motivated you into our

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01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:47,849
community and to start moving forward

1319
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:51,569
with the disclosure movement what what

1320
01:06:57,470 --> 01:06:54,450
caused that well you know honestly

1321
01:06:59,599 --> 01:06:57,480
that's been mainly my team of guides and

1322
01:07:01,519 --> 01:06:59,609
this has really happened in the last 10

1323
01:07:03,650 --> 01:07:01,529
years or so so you know I was the kind

1324
01:07:05,660 --> 01:07:03,660
of person you might not believe this but

1325
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:05,670
I'm I actually tend to be rather

1326
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:08,490
skeptical about things and I was

1327
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:10,410
skeptical about my own experiences as

1328
01:07:14,569 --> 01:07:12,210
well you know I should tell you that

1329
01:07:16,849 --> 01:07:14,579
when I was six I had a couple of

1330
01:07:18,980 --> 01:07:16,859
glow-in-the-dark beans show up in the

1331
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,990
bedroom in the middle of the night and

1332
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:20,640
this was after a period of time when I

1333
01:07:26,089 --> 01:07:22,890
had been seen a lot of like energy forms

1334
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,099
and different kinds of things and so you

1335
01:07:32,269 --> 01:07:29,039
know that was an inexplicable experience

1336
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:32,279
that you know I've kind of known about

1337
01:07:38,269 --> 01:07:36,089
my whole life and my parents were sort

1338
01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:38,279
of into sci-fi and this kind of thing

1339
01:07:43,099 --> 01:07:40,500
and took me to my first UFO conference

1340
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:43,109
when I was probably about 9 or 10 and

1341
01:07:45,769 --> 01:07:45,119
you know I was raised on Star Trek and

1342
01:07:47,630 --> 01:07:45,779
Star Trek

1343
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:47,640
you know just had a profound effect on

1344
01:07:52,190 --> 01:07:49,890
me and you know there was this kind of

1345
01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:52,200
vision of a future that was you know

1346
01:07:56,299 --> 01:07:53,579
there were a lot of problems and a lot

1347
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:56,309
of bad guys but the principles were

1348
01:08:00,440 --> 01:07:58,410
utopian you know and it was all about

1349
01:08:02,269 --> 01:08:00,450
kind of you know equality and fairness

1350
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:02,279
and you know all of those Star Trek

1351
01:08:06,570 --> 01:08:04,410
people were good guys and there was

1352
01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:06,580
Spock and I loved Spock and he was so

1353
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:10,180
calm and rational and all of this and so

1354
01:08:14,550 --> 01:08:12,310
you know that had kind of a profound

1355
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:14,560
effect on me as well

1356
01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:16,870
just from a parent a personal paradigm

1357
01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:18,880
perspective so I remember for instance

1358
01:08:23,460 --> 01:08:21,430
being in the back seat of the car at one

1359
01:08:26,250 --> 01:08:23,470
point when I was you know maybe 9 or 10

1360
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:26,260
years old and the news was on the radio

1361
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:29,410
and at one point they start talking

1362
01:08:36,750 --> 01:08:33,130
about illegal aliens and I nearly hit

1363
01:08:39,900 --> 01:08:36,760
the roof I said something like oh my god

1364
01:08:42,210 --> 01:08:39,910
they're here you know because I I just

1365
01:08:44,579 --> 01:08:42,220
took it for granted that there was you

1366
01:08:46,890 --> 01:08:44,589
know other life out there and other life

1367
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:46,900
might you know come and find us at some

1368
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:49,330
point I was watching Nimoy's in search

1369
01:08:55,260 --> 01:08:52,930
of you know I just had a lot of kind of

1370
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:55,270
context but I wouldn't have called it

1371
01:08:59,460 --> 01:08:57,730
like a serious habit or anything like

1372
01:09:03,120 --> 01:08:59,470
that and what I ended up getting quite

1373
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:03,130
into was just understanding you know

1374
01:09:09,930 --> 01:09:06,730
various religions and spiritual

1375
01:09:12,090 --> 01:09:09,940
practices and cosmological myths and I

1376
01:09:13,620 --> 01:09:12,100
did a lot of this you know at Berkeley

1377
01:09:16,650 --> 01:09:13,630
in anthropology a lot of kind of

1378
01:09:18,810 --> 01:09:16,660
shamanic and and religious studies kind

1379
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:18,820
of stuff and what I started to discover

1380
01:09:24,420 --> 01:09:22,330
is that there are so many cosmological

1381
01:09:26,610 --> 01:09:24,430
myths and so many places that are kind

1382
01:09:29,010 --> 01:09:26,620
of disconnected from one another that

1383
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:29,020
talk about star beings and star people

1384
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:31,570
and you know we know if you look at you

1385
01:09:36,660 --> 01:09:34,210
know the record of humanity that we

1386
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:36,670
suddenly became very intelligent very

1387
01:09:41,540 --> 01:09:39,010
quickly you know round about the time of

1388
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:41,550
you know Mesopotamia and ancient Sumer

1389
01:09:45,950 --> 01:09:43,630
you know the stuff that people like

1390
01:09:48,780 --> 01:09:45,960
zecharia sitchin you know wrote about

1391
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:48,790
and I also had an opportunity when I was

1392
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:50,770
living in Chile I actually had access to

1393
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:53,320
some books and one of the books was a

1394
01:09:57,150 --> 01:09:54,970
book called with Jesus Christ a

1395
01:09:59,700 --> 01:09:57,160
cosmonaut and I went to Christian

1396
01:10:01,740 --> 01:09:59,710
schools as a kid so you know I kind of

1397
01:10:05,580 --> 01:10:01,750
understood that point of view and just

1398
01:10:07,380 --> 01:10:05,590
this whole idea oh my god what if all of

1399
01:10:10,260 --> 01:10:07,390
these spiritual beings from the Bible

1400
01:10:12,810 --> 01:10:10,270
were actually just extraterrestrial or

1401
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:12,820
extra dimensional beings you know and so

1402
01:10:17,190 --> 01:10:14,890
that was another big paradigm shift for

1403
01:10:19,620 --> 01:10:17,200
me and so you know I've just kind of

1404
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:19,630
continued to do my thing you know for a

1405
01:10:23,359 --> 01:10:20,050
long

1406
01:10:26,750 --> 01:10:23,369
I'm but about ten years ago I started

1407
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:26,760
getting in serious contact with my team

1408
01:10:31,859 --> 01:10:29,770
you know while practicing transcendental

1409
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:31,869
you know meditation and that sort of

1410
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:32,290
thing

1411
01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:35,230
and they were the ones honestly who kind

1412
01:10:42,089 --> 01:10:38,440
of pushed me to you know explore you

1413
01:10:44,010 --> 01:10:42,099
know who else is talking to et and once

1414
01:10:45,689 --> 01:10:44,020
I kind of went down that rabbit rabbit

1415
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:45,699
hole I found you know all of the

1416
01:10:49,859 --> 01:10:47,770
channeled messages and there are tens of

1417
01:10:53,790 --> 01:10:49,869
thousands of them at this point going

1418
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:53,800
back you know quite far a lot of them

1419
01:10:57,870 --> 01:10:55,570
are beans ascended beings or

1420
01:10:59,100 --> 01:10:57,880
extraterrestrial beings associated with

1421
01:11:03,209 --> 01:10:59,110
what they call the Galactic Federation

1422
01:11:05,129 --> 01:11:03,219
of Light and I became you know just very

1423
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:05,139
interested in all of that content and I

1424
01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:07,750
wasn't sure I believed that people were

1425
01:11:13,589 --> 01:11:11,320
actually talking to ETA that much but I

1426
01:11:15,299 --> 01:11:13,599
found the messages to be really useful

1427
01:11:16,649 --> 01:11:15,309
from a spiritual perspective and I was

1428
01:11:18,839 --> 01:11:16,659
kind of going through a hard time in my

1429
01:11:22,109 --> 01:11:18,849
life and I found them you know extremely

1430
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:22,119
comforting so you know fast-forward a

1431
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:24,400
little bit and Steve Bassett and I

1432
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:26,290
actually got connected on the website

1433
01:11:30,629 --> 01:11:29,230
called Korra because I was running into

1434
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:30,639
a lot of people which is kind of a

1435
01:11:35,370 --> 01:11:33,340
question and answer site I was running

1436
01:11:37,649 --> 01:11:35,380
into so many people you know with

1437
01:11:39,930 --> 01:11:37,659
scientific and technical backgrounds who

1438
01:11:42,299 --> 01:11:39,940
were just kind of regurgitating the same

1439
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:42,309
dogma you know what I would call well

1440
01:11:45,660 --> 01:11:42,880
what

1441
01:11:47,459 --> 01:11:45,670
Reaper Children has called the science

1442
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:47,469
delusion which I think is a little harsh

1443
01:11:53,299 --> 01:11:50,110
because you know I'm I'm you know a fan

1444
01:11:56,069 --> 01:11:53,309
of science obviously but there are times

1445
01:11:59,160 --> 01:11:56,079
you know when science gets a little too

1446
01:12:01,680 --> 01:11:59,170
wedded and invested in the hard signed a

1447
01:12:04,620 --> 01:12:01,690
scientific method which basically says

1448
01:12:07,229 --> 01:12:04,630
that if you can't control it experiment

1449
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:07,239
and make an experiment happen then

1450
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:10,030
you're not able to prove anything so

1451
01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:11,770
when you have all of these people who

1452
01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:14,260
will still say well there's no proof or

1453
01:12:18,660 --> 01:12:16,750
evidence you know that we have

1454
01:12:20,430 --> 01:12:18,670
extraterrestrial visitors or even that

1455
01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:20,440
there's advanced extraterrestrial life

1456
01:12:25,770 --> 01:12:23,020
you know this tends to be the kind of

1457
01:12:28,049 --> 01:12:25,780
scientific challenge that they're

1458
01:12:29,549 --> 01:12:28,059
demanding when in fact most of the

1459
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:29,559
evidence that we're getting is either

1460
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:31,449
through people's subjective experience

1461
01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:33,730
or you know through science

1462
01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:37,780
which has has actually been very well

1463
01:12:43,950 --> 01:12:40,140
documented by organizations like MUFON

1464
01:12:47,820 --> 01:12:43,960
and the national UFO Reporting Center

1465
01:12:49,260 --> 01:12:47,830
Cheryl Costa and Linda Miller Costa have

1466
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:49,270
actually just put out a book last year

1467
01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:51,100
that's called the UFO sightings desk

1468
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:52,870
desk reference where they've compiled

1469
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:55,210
all of the sightings they could find in

1470
01:13:01,050 --> 01:12:58,570
the u.s. between 2001 and 2015 and

1471
01:13:05,190 --> 01:13:01,060
that's been an amazing you know piece of

1472
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,200
work and very insightful and as well I I

1473
01:13:09,660 --> 01:13:07,120
watched the Citizen hearing on

1474
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:09,670
disclosure you know you're having Steve

1475
01:13:16,170 --> 01:13:12,090
pass it on and then the next segments

1476
01:13:18,030 --> 01:13:16,180
and that work was just incredibly

1477
01:13:22,140 --> 01:13:18,040
groundbreaking because he pulled

1478
01:13:25,770 --> 01:13:22,150
together 40 I think it was eye witnesses

1479
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:25,780
who were very high-ranking incredible

1480
01:13:33,210 --> 01:13:28,650
people in the military in aeronautics

1481
01:13:36,180 --> 01:13:33,220
airline pilots astronauts just all sorts

1482
01:13:37,860 --> 01:13:36,190
of people so you know that was just an

1483
01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:37,870
incredible piece of work that was really

1484
01:13:44,490 --> 01:13:42,550
inspiring and then in early 2017

1485
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:44,500
Russell Kalka and I got together and

1486
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:47,170
formed the disclosure activists because

1487
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:49,810
we wanted to create a group that would

1488
01:13:54,540 --> 01:13:51,730
help connect the dots between all of

1489
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:54,550
these various communities I kind of

1490
01:13:59,340 --> 01:13:57,130
think of disclosure like Big D

1491
01:14:04,410 --> 01:13:59,350
disclosure like super big t disclosure

1492
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:04,420
as being like a jigsaw puzzle and we all

1493
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:08,050
have pieces of it and we have you know

1494
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:09,670
different parts of the jigsaw puzzle

1495
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:11,350
that we're starting to put together and

1496
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:12,820
we can kind of start to see what the

1497
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:17,050
picture is but not exactly let me jump

1498
01:14:19,979 --> 01:14:17,730
in real quick

1499
01:14:23,930 --> 01:14:19,989
where do you think and I know that we

1500
01:14:28,290 --> 01:14:23,940
all have a different definition of

1501
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:28,300
disclosure be if there is a very

1502
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:30,370
personal connect for everybody in this

1503
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:32,230
community what brought them here and

1504
01:14:37,470 --> 01:14:34,810
disclosure means different things to to

1505
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:37,480
everybody and I get that part but where

1506
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:41,110
do you think it is going to come from is

1507
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:43,690
it going to come out of Washington DC is

1508
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:46,890
it going to be an anonymous

1509
01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:49,710
download of documents is it going to be

1510
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:53,640
an Independence Day type of mass event

1511
01:14:59,480 --> 01:14:57,360
over a city how do you how do you see it

1512
01:15:01,820 --> 01:14:59,490
happening well from what I understand

1513
01:15:04,970 --> 01:15:01,830
it's going to be a number of different

1514
01:15:09,020 --> 01:15:04,980
things from what I understand the body

1515
01:15:12,140 --> 01:15:09,030
on planet earth that they are currently

1516
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:12,150
in talks with I guess you could say have

1517
01:15:17,060 --> 01:15:14,730
been negotiating with because from their

1518
01:15:19,790 --> 01:15:17,070
point of view this is an intervention

1519
01:15:22,670 --> 01:15:19,800
effort a humanitarian intervention

1520
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:22,680
effort and you know they plan to offer

1521
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:25,440
operate very much like the Red Cross

1522
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:28,800
would operate and yeah they've been on

1523
01:15:36,260 --> 01:15:32,970
their way now for you know well over a

1524
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:36,270
decade trying to get here a bunch of

1525
01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:39,210
these advanced races because we're stuck

1526
01:15:49,580 --> 01:15:45,300
in a corner of 3d 48 reality you know at

1527
01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:49,590
the end of you know the Milky Way you

1528
01:15:53,780 --> 01:15:51,150
know and if you look at the spiral

1529
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:53,790
galaxy that is the Milky Way we're on

1530
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:55,530
one of the outside arms and we're kind

1531
01:16:00,200 --> 01:15:58,410
of pointed in the right direction so

1532
01:16:03,290 --> 01:16:00,210
it's taken them quite a while to get

1533
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:03,300
here but yeah they they plan you know

1534
01:16:06,860 --> 01:16:05,250
this whole effort this whole time you

1535
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:06,870
know working with people like me and all

1536
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:08,310
of the other work they've done with

1537
01:16:13,820 --> 01:16:11,970
other experiencers and contactees of all

1538
01:16:15,860 --> 01:16:13,830
sorts and it's estimated that probably

1539
01:16:19,340 --> 01:16:15,870
one in 10 people have had some sort of

1540
01:16:23,890 --> 01:16:19,350
UFO sighting worldwide yeah so a lot of

1541
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:23,900
people well okay so what you are

1542
01:16:29,770 --> 01:16:27,330
suggesting here is that there is a

1543
01:16:33,230 --> 01:16:29,780
negotiation that it's a negotiation

1544
01:16:38,780 --> 01:16:33,240
conversation that is going on in front

1545
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:38,790
of some type of et exposure the UN has

1546
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:41,250
an outer space agency that was created

1547
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:44,490
in 2010 right and I've been told that

1548
01:16:50,210 --> 01:16:47,130
the outer space agency is involved but

1549
01:16:52,250 --> 01:16:50,220
there are obviously a lot of bodies

1550
01:16:55,550 --> 01:16:52,260
involved and I mean both you know

1551
01:16:58,760 --> 01:16:55,560
individual bodies you know and other

1552
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,770
organizations because you know we're

1553
01:17:03,490 --> 01:17:00,800
basically you know trying to get

1554
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,500
to open contact and you know obviously

1555
01:17:07,089 --> 01:17:05,840
there's been a quarantine period and you

1556
01:17:12,850 --> 01:17:07,099
know kind of all the things you would

1557
01:17:16,540 --> 01:17:12,860
expect the the teams you know that many

1558
01:17:18,879 --> 01:17:16,550
of the EXO conscious or experiencer

1559
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:18,889
types are working with are working on

1560
01:17:23,609 --> 01:17:21,199
their language skills they're trying to

1561
01:17:25,899 --> 01:17:23,619
understand our culture they're trying to

1562
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:25,909
understand you know the state of our

1563
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:29,510
science of our technology and all sorts

1564
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:30,770
of things because they're trying to

1565
01:17:34,839 --> 01:17:32,570
figure out how they can help best and

1566
01:17:37,870 --> 01:17:34,849
they apparently you know we're having a

1567
01:17:40,899 --> 01:17:37,880
lot of trouble with this to begin with

1568
01:17:42,850 --> 01:17:40,909
but as they started handing over more

1569
01:17:45,010 --> 01:17:42,860
scientific knowledge and doing things

1570
01:17:46,990 --> 01:17:45,020
like solving mathematical proofs that we

1571
01:17:51,310 --> 01:17:47,000
haven't been able to solve for decades

1572
01:17:54,129 --> 01:17:51,320
you know and I apparently the

1573
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,139
earth-based delegations became a lot

1574
01:17:59,470 --> 01:17:56,960
more receptive because we can't even

1575
01:18:01,660 --> 01:17:59,480
imagine the kind of technology progress

1576
01:18:03,220 --> 01:18:01,670
that this is going to allow for us and

1577
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:03,230
the sorts of problems we're going to be

1578
01:18:07,359 --> 01:18:05,210
able to solve with technology you know I

1579
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,369
multum Utley a technophile I do believe

1580
01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:08,960
we need to be conscious and thoughtful

1581
01:18:13,390 --> 01:18:10,940
about the technology that we create and

1582
01:18:15,580 --> 01:18:13,400
how we use it and need to respond when

1583
01:18:17,589 --> 01:18:15,590
there are unintended consequences but

1584
01:18:21,370 --> 01:18:17,599
fundamentally I believe technology will

1585
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:21,380
save us and are we ready for it well

1586
01:18:24,609 --> 01:18:22,730
that's what this whole effort has been

1587
01:18:26,979 --> 01:18:24,619
about and here's how I would explain it

1588
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:26,989
to you even though I might talk about

1589
01:18:33,310 --> 01:18:30,800
these beings be being et if you go out

1590
01:18:35,319 --> 01:18:33,320
and you look at the data it turns out

1591
01:18:40,209 --> 01:18:35,329
that up to 28 percent of people

1592
01:18:42,490 --> 01:18:40,219
worldwide will say that they've heard

1593
01:18:44,140 --> 01:18:42,500
voices inside their head at some point

1594
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:44,150
or another voices that they're not sure

1595
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:46,400
who it is you know or they think it's

1596
01:18:50,530 --> 01:18:48,650
God or they think it's Jesus or alien or

1597
01:18:53,589 --> 01:18:50,540
aliens or they think it's angels or they

1598
01:18:55,089 --> 01:18:53,599
think it's fairies or you know you know

1599
01:18:56,830 --> 01:18:55,099
in Buddhist countries they might think

1600
01:18:58,799 --> 01:18:56,840
something else in Hindu countries they

1601
01:19:01,500 --> 01:18:58,809
might think I think some something else

1602
01:19:04,540 --> 01:19:01,510
because the whole effort has been about

1603
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:04,550
raising consciousness raising vibration

1604
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:07,280
trying to get people thinking more

1605
01:19:11,799 --> 01:19:09,650
positively helping people heal from

1606
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:11,809
trauma I'm a trauma survivor myself so a

1607
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:14,510
lot of the work that my team does

1608
01:19:20,799 --> 01:19:17,510
with me is you basically talk therapy

1609
01:19:22,029 --> 01:19:20,809
you know 24/7 whatever problems I'm

1610
01:19:23,709 --> 01:19:22,039
having they're there they're very

1611
01:19:27,250 --> 01:19:23,719
sympathetic they're trying to help me

1612
01:19:29,529 --> 01:19:27,260
solve my problems you know so it's been

1613
01:19:31,029 --> 01:19:29,539
a really positive experience for me and

1614
01:19:33,279 --> 01:19:31,039
you know just if you don't mind if I

1615
01:19:35,950 --> 01:19:33,289
circle back to free again the dr. Edgar

1616
01:19:37,839 --> 01:19:35,960
Mitchell Foundation and the data from

1617
01:19:40,779 --> 01:19:37,849
their study of experiencers which

1618
01:19:44,410 --> 01:19:40,789
includes about 4,000 experiencers I

1619
01:19:48,580 --> 01:19:44,420
think at this point 85% of the

1620
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:48,590
experiencers talk about those

1621
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:50,960
experiences being extremely positive and

1622
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:52,730
things that they want to continue to

1623
01:19:57,370 --> 01:19:55,760
experience so even though a lot of

1624
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:57,380
different people in our world have

1625
01:20:02,259 --> 01:20:00,320
different ways of talking about it a lot

1626
01:20:03,790 --> 01:20:02,269
of people are having the same kind of

1627
01:20:05,529 --> 01:20:03,800
experience does that make sense to you

1628
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:05,539
you know but there's a huge number of

1629
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:07,369
people who would say it's Jesus they're

1630
01:20:13,629 --> 01:20:10,639
talking to and you know that might be

1631
01:20:15,339 --> 01:20:13,639
true because you know the there's

1632
01:20:17,740 --> 01:20:15,349
something called a Christ consciousness

1633
01:20:19,959 --> 01:20:17,750
which is a whole bunch of beings who

1634
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:19,969
were aligned with kind of that message

1635
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:22,400
in that way of being but you know the

1636
01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:24,289
way I kind of parse it all because it

1637
01:20:29,049 --> 01:20:27,230
can be so confusing is you know I look

1638
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:29,059
for things that are positive I you know

1639
01:20:34,299 --> 01:20:30,710
things that I can kind of see the light

1640
01:20:36,279 --> 01:20:34,309
in for the most part you know when I'm

1641
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:36,289
looking for you know spiritual content

1642
01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:38,449
or disclosure related content that I can

1643
01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:40,369
kind of relate to and there are a lot of

1644
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:43,550
people we have several advisors as part

1645
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:46,130
of the disclosure activists Grant

1646
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:48,170
Cameron is one Victor V Gianni is

1647
01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:51,679
another Cheryl Coast days one and you

1648
01:20:56,799 --> 01:20:54,289
know so and a bunch of people who are

1649
01:20:58,720 --> 01:20:56,809
more involved in the exo conscious side

1650
01:21:01,959 --> 01:20:58,730
of things so dr. Rebecca Hardcastle

1651
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:01,969
right Georgio Piacenza various people

1652
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:04,400
like that so we've been kind of trying

1653
01:21:10,029 --> 01:21:06,610
to connect these dots and kind of unify

1654
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:10,039
various forces within the movement so

1655
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:12,530
that we can be more effective and so

1656
01:21:17,169 --> 01:21:15,440
that audiences can understand better you

1657
01:21:18,549 --> 01:21:17,179
know what is this really all about you

1658
01:21:20,259 --> 01:21:18,559
know what is this thing

1659
01:21:22,779 --> 01:21:20,269
you know do we need to be scared or can

1660
01:21:24,759 --> 01:21:22,789
we be excited or you know what have you

1661
01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:24,769
so my message is really that this could

1662
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,329
be the most positive thing that's ever

1663
01:21:28,790 --> 01:21:28,400
happened you know to humanity and it's

1664
01:21:30,860 --> 01:21:28,800
ER

1665
01:21:33,740 --> 01:21:30,870
needed at this point and yeah I think we

1666
01:21:36,230 --> 01:21:33,750
can handle it because we have a lot of

1667
01:21:37,940 --> 01:21:36,240
people you know 50% of the people on

1668
01:21:40,250 --> 01:21:37,950
this planet are under the age of 25 and

1669
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:40,260
they've grown up digital so I think we

1670
01:21:48,260 --> 01:21:42,000
can handle it yeah I think you're right

1671
01:21:52,780 --> 01:21:48,270
on that part but there is when we look

1672
01:21:55,580 --> 01:21:52,790
at things like Christianity or the

1673
01:22:00,200 --> 01:21:55,590
Muslim side of things and world

1674
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:00,210
religions how that we're talking about

1675
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:03,570
you know 3 billion people right there on

1676
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:06,570
this planet right two or three religions

1677
01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:11,310
that may or may not react in a positive

1678
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:14,400
way not not necessarily in a negative

1679
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:18,410
way but certainly their beliefs and

1680
01:22:24,650 --> 01:22:22,170
their their very being their lives

1681
01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:24,660
will come crashing down on them what

1682
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:27,720
would result from that or the other side

1683
01:22:35,150 --> 01:22:32,400
of it is 3 billion of of those out there

1684
01:22:38,510 --> 01:22:35,160
might just go you know what is so what I

1685
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:38,520
knew it well this is the thing Jimmy is

1686
01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:41,550
the Vatican has for years been talking

1687
01:22:48,740 --> 01:22:44,910
about our extraterrestrial brothers and

1688
01:22:51,380 --> 01:22:48,750
so has the Dalai Lama and you know I'm

1689
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:51,390
not deeply familiar you know with what

1690
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:53,840
say you know Muslim clerics talk about

1691
01:22:58,700 --> 01:22:56,880
but you know Allah is the

1692
01:23:00,230 --> 01:22:58,710
judeo-christian God I mean it's the same

1693
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:00,240
God and this is very well-established

1694
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:03,090
and in Islam as well they consider Jesus

1695
01:23:08,140 --> 01:23:05,610
Christ to be a prophet and you know it's

1696
01:23:10,370 --> 01:23:08,150
all kind of copacetic and coexistence

1697
01:23:12,890 --> 01:23:10,380
oriented you know when you kind of start

1698
01:23:15,410 --> 01:23:12,900
digging under the covers so I think the

1699
01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:15,420
religions will be fine I think they will

1700
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:18,450
all come out and say oh yes all God's

1701
01:23:30,290 --> 01:23:24,800
children it's wonderful my thought is is

1702
01:23:34,130 --> 01:23:30,300
polluted as this is wouldn't it just be

1703
01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:34,140
an interesting twist on things if we did

1704
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,320
have the you know the the famous flying

1705
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:39,120
sauce from the White House lawn or on

1706
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,050
the 405 freeway here in Los

1707
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:43,760
Angeles right and it comes out on land

1708
01:23:50,799 --> 01:23:48,050
and the the stair steps come down and we

1709
01:23:52,089 --> 01:23:50,809
see the feet then we see the legs and

1710
01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:52,099
then BOOM

1711
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:55,400
he looks like Jesus all right and you

1712
01:24:02,530 --> 01:23:58,690
know I I don't know I none of us do but

1713
01:24:05,890 --> 01:24:02,540
wouldn't that just be interesting and I

1714
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:05,900
I'm okay with that actually it's it it's

1715
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:08,329
kind of a weird thought but you just

1716
01:24:13,450 --> 01:24:11,449
never know we could all be wrong yeah

1717
01:24:15,939 --> 01:24:13,460
well you know I I like to say that

1718
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:15,949
aliens are people too because that's

1719
01:24:20,379 --> 01:24:18,290
kind of my experience you know and they

1720
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:20,389
they call themselves beings all the time

1721
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:22,639
and I tend to refer to them as people

1722
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:24,760
and you know they seem like people to me

1723
01:24:28,959 --> 01:24:27,440
and they will we will find that most of

1724
01:24:32,109 --> 01:24:28,969
them look very much like us and the

1725
01:24:35,379 --> 01:24:32,119
reason for that of course is that if you

1726
01:24:36,970 --> 01:24:35,389
look at at humanity as a species Homo

1727
01:24:39,370 --> 01:24:36,980
sapiens or even some of the other

1728
01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:39,380
hominids that there have been over time

1729
01:24:43,919 --> 01:24:41,260
there's you know there's a qualitative

1730
01:24:47,470 --> 01:24:43,929
difference an order of magnitude

1731
01:24:49,390 --> 01:24:47,480
difference between say US and most of

1732
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:49,400
the animal species on our world I mean

1733
01:24:53,410 --> 01:24:51,199
in terms of how we use language in terms

1734
01:24:55,810 --> 01:24:53,420
of how we use tools in terms of the

1735
01:24:58,030 --> 01:24:55,820
complex civilizations we build you know

1736
01:25:00,100 --> 01:24:58,040
very very different from most animal

1737
01:25:02,350 --> 01:25:00,110
species so you know it's really

1738
01:25:05,379 --> 01:25:02,360
important you know to kind of keep in

1739
01:25:07,959 --> 01:25:05,389
mind that and if you think about it it's

1740
01:25:10,540 --> 01:25:07,969
it's it's all very logical like how

1741
01:25:13,689 --> 01:25:10,550
would advanced civilizations go about

1742
01:25:15,729 --> 01:25:13,699
seeding life on a planet and developing

1743
01:25:17,890 --> 01:25:15,739
you know again remember this is a big

1744
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:17,900
virtual world you know so how do they

1745
01:25:21,310 --> 01:25:19,760
develop our world how do they develop

1746
01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:21,320
the animal species on our world the

1747
01:25:28,180 --> 01:25:25,760
plant species etc and you know they they

1748
01:25:30,069 --> 01:25:28,190
are you know much more advanced than a

1749
01:25:32,020 --> 01:25:30,079
lot of us are you know technologically

1750
01:25:35,020 --> 01:25:32,030
so it might seem very strange but I

1751
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,030
think the big aha for everybody is going

1752
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,040
to be oh my god they're not little green

1753
01:25:42,129 --> 01:25:39,440
men they're not little gray aliens you

1754
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:42,139
know I mean these beings who are here to

1755
01:25:47,379 --> 01:25:45,530
help us are basically just like us and

1756
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:47,389
at some point you know some people might

1757
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:49,730
have called them creator gods they like

1758
01:25:53,740 --> 01:25:51,290
to call themselves with me master

1759
01:25:55,300 --> 01:25:53,750
geneticists

1760
01:25:58,090 --> 01:25:55,310
you know they don't like to be called

1761
01:26:01,450 --> 01:25:58,100
creator odds but you know you know these

1762
01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:01,460
these some of these races you know have

1763
01:26:04,990 --> 01:26:03,110
been involved in the seeding of our

1764
01:26:06,490 --> 01:26:05,000
planet and the seeding of other planets

1765
01:26:08,260 --> 01:26:06,500
and even though they like to talk and

1766
01:26:10,810 --> 01:26:08,270
Star Trek about the prime directive and

1767
01:26:12,580 --> 01:26:10,820
all of this that's actually not the way

1768
01:26:14,530 --> 01:26:12,590
they tend to approach things because

1769
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:14,540
they've said that civilizations need

1770
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:16,610
mentorship they need guidance there are

1771
01:26:20,620 --> 01:26:18,290
certain self-destructive tendencies that

1772
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:20,630
tend to kick in if there isn't the right

1773
01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:23,480
kind of guidance you know and a

1774
01:26:27,550 --> 01:26:25,430
spiritual journey if you will that a

1775
01:26:30,580 --> 01:26:27,560
civilization is on and that's why so

1776
01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:30,590
much of the preparation has been about

1777
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:32,630
helping people on their spiritual

1778
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:34,880
journeys and becoming more conscious and

1779
01:26:41,140 --> 01:26:37,010
becoming more aware and woke and all of

1780
01:26:44,650 --> 01:26:41,150
this kind of stuff well now we have the

1781
01:26:48,250 --> 01:26:44,660
mass media that has been covering the

1782
01:26:50,710 --> 01:26:48,260
UFO subject pretty aggressively since

1783
01:26:53,890 --> 01:26:50,720
December we don't need to that's been

1784
01:26:55,810 --> 01:26:53,900
amazing to see very cold so seat Basset

1785
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:55,820
deserves a lot of credit for that he

1786
01:27:00,370 --> 01:26:58,400
made a lot of breakthroughs with the

1787
01:27:02,590 --> 01:27:00,380
media a few if you go look at paradigm

1788
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:02,600
research group and look at the media

1789
01:27:06,220 --> 01:27:04,730
coverage that that he was able to get

1790
01:27:08,170 --> 01:27:06,230
with paradigm research group with

1791
01:27:09,850 --> 01:27:08,180
everything they did the Citizen hearing

1792
01:27:12,430 --> 01:27:09,860
on disclosure and you know many

1793
01:27:14,500 --> 01:27:12,440
subsequent events as well that's been a

1794
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:14,510
real real breakthrough and yeah we're

1795
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:17,570
seeing stuff now Tom DeLonge also you

1796
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:19,850
know gets a lot of credit he's he's a

1797
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:21,890
bit controversial because I think a lot

1798
01:27:26,410 --> 01:27:24,530
of people don't understand that although

1799
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:26,420
he wasn't like a serious UFO

1800
01:27:31,450 --> 01:27:28,490
investigator you know he was a hobbyist

1801
01:27:34,060 --> 01:27:31,460
UFO investigator for a long time and he

1802
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:34,070
decided to use his platform and actually

1803
01:27:40,930 --> 01:27:37,730
gave up blink-182 formed this new band

1804
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:40,940
Angels and Airwaves and has been you

1805
01:27:44,650 --> 01:27:42,560
know hard at work on many of the same

1806
01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:44,660
consciousness related activities the

1807
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:47,480
rest of us are on so and as a pop

1808
01:27:53,530 --> 01:27:51,440
culture icon has a platform and an

1809
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:53,540
audience that he was able to use to get

1810
01:27:58,300 --> 01:27:55,280
this information out of the echo chamber

1811
01:28:01,360 --> 01:27:58,310
and had the clout to get the DoD to

1812
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,370
cooperate with him and you know start to

1813
01:28:04,780 --> 01:28:02,960
put this information out there which you

1814
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:04,790
know people like Brian Cameron have been

1815
01:28:07,420 --> 01:28:06,890
you know talking about for years now but

1816
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:07,430
you know this

1817
01:28:11,740 --> 01:28:08,810
is the plan you know there's definitely

1818
01:28:15,180 --> 01:28:11,750
a plan for this to happen so that that

1819
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:15,190
formal disclosure has started to happen

1820
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:18,560
but you know I think for us the Holy

1821
01:28:25,690 --> 01:28:21,410
Grail is you know a major world

1822
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:25,700
government you know having the press

1823
01:28:29,710 --> 01:28:27,410
conference and saying yep

1824
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:29,720
they've been here we haven't told you

1825
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,430
this whole time because you know we've

1826
01:28:34,810 --> 01:28:32,960
been vetting them and we haven't been

1827
01:28:36,370 --> 01:28:34,820
sure and yeah there was some terrible

1828
01:28:39,310 --> 01:28:36,380
stuff that happened but that's not

1829
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:39,320
that's not these people and you know so

1830
01:28:45,070 --> 01:28:42,250
there's gonna be an extended

1831
01:28:46,690 --> 01:28:45,080
exploitation process I I guess you could

1832
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:46,700
say and then there's gonna be the

1833
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:48,410
question that everyone's going to ask

1834
01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:50,510
well what what what does this mean for

1835
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:53,360
Humanity and you know my favorite quote

1836
01:29:00,040 --> 01:28:55,840
is from a computer scientist whose name

1837
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:00,050
is Alan Kay who says the best way to

1838
01:29:06,970 --> 01:29:04,490
predict the future is to invent it and

1839
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:06,980
my team constantly says this to me the

1840
01:29:10,180 --> 01:29:08,570
best way to predict the future is to

1841
01:29:12,130 --> 01:29:10,190
invent it so you know we're in the

1842
01:29:13,780 --> 01:29:12,140
process of inventing a future that works

1843
01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:13,790
for everybody

1844
01:29:18,430 --> 01:29:16,400
and you know that's what I myself am

1845
01:29:20,740 --> 01:29:18,440
deeply passionate about and we need to

1846
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:20,750
get rid of war and violence and scarcity

1847
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:22,880
thinking and just this terrible terrible

1848
01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:25,610
stuff that's sucking the life out of our

1849
01:29:32,770 --> 01:29:29,840
civilization and you know move on to a

1850
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:32,780
paradigm that's about abundance and

1851
01:29:36,910 --> 01:29:35,210
equality and justice and fairness and

1852
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:36,920
everybody getting a fair shake and

1853
01:29:43,420 --> 01:29:40,880
seeing you know humanity flower in you

1854
01:29:44,530 --> 01:29:43,430
know the way we we all know we can you

1855
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:44,540
know we just kind of need the

1856
01:29:49,180 --> 01:29:47,210
opportunity and we kind of need you know

1857
01:29:51,850 --> 01:29:49,190
we kind of need the adults to show up on

1858
01:29:54,220 --> 01:29:51,860
the playground and say okay hey you over

1859
01:29:57,790 --> 01:29:54,230
there you over there you sit down you do

1860
01:30:01,150 --> 01:29:57,800
this well there's that part of it and

1861
01:30:02,890 --> 01:30:01,160
I've only got two minutes left so it'll

1862
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:02,900
be a quick question with a quick answer

1863
01:30:09,940 --> 01:30:07,250
which is this community gets that we

1864
01:30:12,670 --> 01:30:09,950
totally understand it but what about you

1865
01:30:15,790 --> 01:30:12,680
in your job walking down the halls of

1866
01:30:18,190 --> 01:30:15,800
say Microsoft or Amazon talking about

1867
01:30:20,630 --> 01:30:18,200
disclosure in UFOs are we at that point

1868
01:30:23,810 --> 01:30:20,640
do you feel comfortable in doing that or

1869
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,820
do you do it now no I've been in hiding

1870
01:30:28,850 --> 01:30:26,400
and you know I was also doing work with

1871
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:28,860
anonymous so I have a lot of kind of

1872
01:30:32,210 --> 01:30:30,930
activism and different work that I kind

1873
01:30:36,170 --> 01:30:32,220
of keep on the down-low

1874
01:30:39,230 --> 01:30:36,180
but I've become a lot more open in the

1875
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:39,240
in the last year or two because it's

1876
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:41,490
definitely time now for us to be having

1877
01:30:48,260 --> 01:30:43,650
these conversations but now you've got

1878
01:30:50,380 --> 01:30:48,270
to keep politics religion sex and aliens

1879
01:30:52,730 --> 01:30:50,390
out of business so I'm sorry

1880
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:52,740
you're not gonna want to miss tomorrow

1881
01:30:57,140 --> 01:30:55,050
night's show I've got Barrett Brown on

1882
01:30:59,650 --> 01:30:57,150
the show yeah tomorrow night bare Browns

1883
01:31:02,720 --> 01:30:59,660
on I've had a Gregg Housh on the show

1884
01:31:06,230 --> 01:31:02,730
I've had quite a few of the key players

1885
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:06,240
of from anonymous here you should you

1886
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:11,310
should listen to me I'm an anonymous

1887
01:31:18,020 --> 01:31:14,370
I've been working with anonymous for oh

1888
01:31:19,790 --> 01:31:18,030
gosh five or six years or so and you

1889
01:31:21,410 --> 01:31:19,800
know I kind of I'm really interested in

1890
01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:21,420
movements in general and I also do work

1891
01:31:25,900 --> 01:31:23,760
with the resistance movement so I do a

1892
01:31:31,190 --> 01:31:25,910
whole bunch of you know different things

1893
01:31:33,770 --> 01:31:31,200
I like this concept of activism I call

1894
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:33,780
myself a culture hacker right so I don't

1895
01:31:38,330 --> 01:31:36,090
actually do any illegal hacking you know

1896
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:38,340
but I'm happy to try and change people's

1897
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:42,570
minds and have you been to any of the

1898
01:31:48,650 --> 01:31:44,850
conference's like hope in New York I

1899
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:48,660
have you've got to go to hope okay

1900
01:31:52,610 --> 01:31:50,010
you've got to go to hope hope is

1901
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:52,620
absolutely amazing so if you ever get a

1902
01:31:56,990 --> 01:31:55,170
chance it's at the Roosevelt Hotel there

1903
01:32:00,020 --> 01:31:57,000
in Manhattan we went a couple of years

1904
01:32:01,580 --> 01:32:00,030
ago and that was one of you know that's

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01:32:05,390 --> 01:32:01,590
a bucket list thing

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01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:05,400
so dr. Lisa thank you so much and I want

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01:32:11,390 --> 01:32:07,770
to let everybody know the website is

1908
01:32:14,060 --> 01:32:11,400
disclosure activists dot org the links

1909
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,070
are over at Jimmy Church radio calm and

1910
01:32:19,070 --> 01:32:16,080
I want to invite you back onto the show

1911
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:19,080
where we can do a full show on tech and

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01:32:23,690 --> 01:32:21,570
futurism and of course talk about UFOs

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01:32:26,330 --> 01:32:23,700
and your experiences too as well thank

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01:32:27,860 --> 01:32:26,340
you so much I'd love that thank you so

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01:32:30,470 --> 01:32:27,870
much you have a great night great

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01:32:32,490 --> 01:32:30,480
conversation thank you dr. Lisa dr. Lisa

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01:32:35,190 --> 01:32:32,500
Gallardo right there the

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01:32:37,740 --> 01:32:35,200
closure activists the disclosure

1919
01:32:39,860 --> 01:32:37,750
activists out org camera to take a

1920
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:39,870
little break and I'll be right back with

1921
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:42,490
Steve Bassett you stay right there this

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01:33:00,750 --> 01:32:45,070
is fade to black

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01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:03,930
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1924
01:33:10,270 --> 01:33:07,970
you're listening to fade to black always

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on the edge of the hottest alternative

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talk chilly church with fade to black

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experienced more than our fair share

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this is Jimmy Church a fade to black and

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now you can too just click on the new

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1953
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1954
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01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:03,960
you listen to us and we listen to you so

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01:35:13,940 --> 01:35:11,730
does the CIA jgr a radio.com hi folks

1968
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:13,950
what can I say without making claims

1969
01:35:17,150 --> 01:35:15,450
seaweedy is truly the buzzword for

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health what does it do government

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institutions will not allow me to say

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what this wonderful oil does for us but

1973
01:35:26,630 --> 01:35:23,970
I can say it's non-gmo and organic I can

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01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:26,640
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01:35:30,830 --> 01:35:28,560
in plain English means you won't get

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high there are those that want to squash

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01:35:34,670 --> 01:35:32,880
your freedom to buy natural products

1978
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fight back with your purchase power in

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the end it is you that takes care of

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your health go to ancient life oil calm

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one more time ancient life oil calm you

1982
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:44,970
are listening to fade to black

1983
01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:47,250
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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01:35:54,110 --> 01:35:52,080
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1985
01:35:57,050 --> 01:35:54,120
listening to Jimmy Church this is a

1986
01:36:00,910 --> 01:35:57,060
revolution the revolution will not be

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01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:00,920
televised the revolution is on radio

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01:36:06,330 --> 01:36:44,510
[Music]

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01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:46,920
welcome back fade to black Community

1990
01:36:52,020 --> 01:36:49,450
Church follow me on twitter at je Church

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01:36:53,970 --> 01:36:52,030
radio you can follow Steve at Steve

1992
01:36:56,670 --> 01:36:53,980
Bassett right there paradigm research

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01:36:58,770 --> 01:36:56,680
group in this segment of fade to black

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promo code Jimmy every order over a

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2001
01:37:18,210 --> 01:37:16,450
Steve Bassett he is the executive

2002
01:37:21,540 --> 01:37:18,220
director of the paradigm research group

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01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:21,550
founded back in 1996 to end the

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01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:23,770
government imposed embargo on truth

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01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:26,320
behind the so called UFO phenomenon now

2006
01:37:30,870 --> 01:37:29,110
check this out he has given over 1,000

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01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:30,880
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01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:34,300
will mark one thousand and two and I

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01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:35,920
would like to welcome back to fade to

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01:37:43,140 --> 01:37:38,080
black one and only Steve Bassett Steve

2011
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:43,150
good evening again it's absolutely good

2012
01:37:50,250 --> 01:37:47,370
to hear your voice my friend and how

2013
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:50,260
fade to black t-shirt I remember like

2014
01:37:56,190 --> 01:37:53,170
five years ago I threw you one and you

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01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:56,200
looked at it and you said I'm too old to

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01:38:06,270 --> 01:37:57,850
wear this and you threw it back you

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01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:06,280
remember that well I was picturing you

2018
01:38:09,570 --> 01:38:08,170
wearing the t-shirt and I went you know

2019
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:09,580
I'm gonna go with Steve on this I'll

2020
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:12,130
take you back and take it back one day

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01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:13,810
I'm gonna get a picture of you wearing a

2022
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:15,850
faded black t-shirt and the world will

2023
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:19,600
shift on its axis it could happen it

2024
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:22,530
could happen I I firmly believe that now

2025
01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:28,320
Steve the disclosure movement you are

2026
01:38:33,690 --> 01:38:31,600
the disclosure oh gee and before you ask

2027
01:38:36,270 --> 01:38:33,700
me what Oh G means that that means

2028
01:38:37,470 --> 01:38:36,280
you're too old but you are indeed that

2029
01:38:40,590 --> 01:38:37,480
for our community

2030
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:40,600
that's you know we look up to you not

2031
01:38:45,930 --> 01:38:43,210
only for your words but for your effort

2032
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:45,940
too as well where do you think we are

2033
01:38:54,620 --> 01:38:50,110
today after you know over 20 years doing

2034
01:38:58,189 --> 01:38:54,630
this activism Steve where are we today

2035
01:39:01,130 --> 01:38:58,199
we were in a very complicated place I've

2036
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:01,140
lived through a lot of complicated times

2037
01:39:05,959 --> 01:39:03,650
from the standpoint of the United States

2038
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:05,969
the world gets more complicated every

2039
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:07,650
year regardless of where you are on the

2040
01:39:15,140 --> 01:39:12,050
planet but I was born just after the war

2041
01:39:19,010 --> 01:39:15,150
the Korean War was going on in my first

2042
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:19,020
years the Vietnam War started really got

2043
01:39:25,610 --> 01:39:21,920
going just as I left for college after

2044
01:39:28,250 --> 01:39:25,620
college and the wasn't long before the

2045
01:39:30,050 --> 01:39:28,260
Watergate scandal broke and then other

2046
01:39:34,070 --> 01:39:30,060
scandals broke the church Commission

2047
01:39:36,410 --> 01:39:34,080
then the the scandals that the Reagan

2048
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:36,420
administration and the Clinton scandals

2049
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:40,530
on and on a lot of chaos this this is

2050
01:39:46,939 --> 01:39:44,730
this is bigger than any of that so

2051
01:39:48,740 --> 01:39:46,949
that's complicated and then the other

2052
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:48,750
thing is is that the the advocacy

2053
01:39:55,700 --> 01:39:53,280
movement has pushed or it's helped to

2054
01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:55,710
bring the truth embargo up to the edge

2055
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:00,719
so it's it's right there could go it

2056
01:40:07,220 --> 01:40:04,890
could very easily end it's it's it's

2057
01:40:09,649 --> 01:40:07,230
right near the finish line but it's

2058
01:40:13,130 --> 01:40:09,659
going to be hard to push it over so

2059
01:40:14,930 --> 01:40:13,140
that's in the works and so this this is

2060
01:40:18,830 --> 01:40:14,940
extremely difficult to navigate and if

2061
01:40:24,110 --> 01:40:18,840
you listen to people on new shows

2062
01:40:25,970 --> 01:40:24,120
talking about their plans or election

2063
01:40:29,959 --> 01:40:25,980
campaigns or anything that involves

2064
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:29,969
future planning you sense their

2065
01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:32,489
befuddling they're just not sure what to

2066
01:40:37,250 --> 01:40:34,679
do they're confused they've gone down

2067
01:40:39,410 --> 01:40:37,260
the rabbit hole and they're down there

2068
01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:39,420
eating cake and getting larger and

2069
01:40:42,169 --> 01:40:40,800
drinking something and getting smaller

2070
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:42,179
and there's a red queen and white

2071
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:44,159
rabbits running around it it's really

2072
01:40:47,450 --> 01:40:45,360
very bizarre now this is not a good

2073
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:47,460
thing particularly when you've got I

2074
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:49,770
know how many 15,000 10,000 nuclear

2075
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:52,800
weapons many of which are on launch

2076
01:40:58,490 --> 01:40:55,290
alert and you've got a world that's

2077
01:41:01,550 --> 01:40:58,500
constantly in one form of instability or

2078
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:01,560
another now good so that's that's what

2079
01:41:07,430 --> 01:41:04,650
we're at now the fact is is that when

2080
01:41:09,410 --> 01:41:07,440
you have times of chaos sometimes

2081
01:41:13,630 --> 01:41:09,420
extraordinary things will happen because

2082
01:41:18,020 --> 01:41:13,640
the normal routines are disrupted right

2083
01:41:21,620 --> 01:41:18,030
certain barriers are dropped so it

2084
01:41:23,450 --> 01:41:21,630
wouldn't surprise me if that actually

2085
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:23,460
contributed to the embargo finally

2086
01:41:28,370 --> 01:41:25,170
ending but the ending of the truth

2087
01:41:31,070 --> 01:41:28,380
embargo is a non trivial thing as you

2088
01:41:32,540 --> 01:41:31,080
know Jimmy it's it's it's not going to

2089
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:32,550
be easy right up until the day it

2090
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:35,070
happens there are just so many

2091
01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:38,610
conflicting views on it and internal

2092
01:41:47,450 --> 01:41:42,080
dissent within our own government but

2093
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:47,460
because more nations are have already

2094
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:50,010
done some things which show that they're

2095
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:53,489
leaning in that way that kind of creates

2096
01:41:57,260 --> 01:41:55,530
a disclosure race in a sense where

2097
01:41:59,540 --> 01:41:57,270
you've got any number of nations looking

2098
01:42:01,640 --> 01:41:59,550
at each other wondering who would go

2099
01:42:02,870 --> 01:42:01,650
first and who's going to be first like

2100
01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:02,880
who's gonna be first on the moon who's

2101
01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:04,080
gonna be first in space

2102
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:06,510
first on Mars who's gonna be the first

2103
01:42:11,810 --> 01:42:09,449
station to announce et presence oh I'm

2104
01:42:13,310 --> 01:42:11,820
optimistic but I can't get too

2105
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:13,320
optimistic because it's so hard to

2106
01:42:17,959 --> 01:42:15,210
project what the hell is going to happen

2107
01:42:21,860 --> 01:42:17,969
two weeks from now you've probably gone

2108
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:21,870
through different emotional tidal waves

2109
01:42:27,020 --> 01:42:24,690
over the years where things were right

2110
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:27,030
there right right you're look you're

2111
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:30,480
staring at it and then nothing happens

2112
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:33,449
or so are you kind of in that mindset

2113
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:35,280
right now too as well I kind of hear

2114
01:42:38,959 --> 01:42:37,050
that tone in your voice where well I

2115
01:42:43,630 --> 01:42:38,969
think we all can feel it right we all

2116
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:43,640
know something's about to break people

2117
01:42:48,890 --> 01:42:46,560
but most of my emotional tidal waves but

2118
01:42:50,660 --> 01:42:48,900
before I got into this work getting into

2119
01:42:55,189 --> 01:42:50,670
this work was the solution to my

2120
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:55,199
emotional tidal waves but yeah one thing

2121
01:43:00,290 --> 01:42:57,890
that's happening which is notable but

2122
01:43:03,050 --> 01:43:00,300
you think you'd have to be involved in

2123
01:43:05,270 --> 01:43:03,060
this deeply to really pick up on it but

2124
01:43:06,770 --> 01:43:05,280
you probably picked one too and that is

2125
01:43:10,580 --> 01:43:06,780
is that course this is what I wanted all

2126
01:43:12,650 --> 01:43:10,590
along is that more and more people when

2127
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:12,660
they think about this issue are thinking

2128
01:43:20,090 --> 01:43:17,489
disclosure as opposed to UFOs that's a

2129
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:20,100
significant change UFOs is just those

2130
01:43:24,350 --> 01:43:21,440
unidentified

2131
01:43:27,170 --> 01:43:24,360
which is the phrase that has been the

2132
01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:27,180
touchstone for all of this for most of

2133
01:43:31,670 --> 01:43:29,340
the last seven decades you can't really

2134
01:43:33,950 --> 01:43:31,680
go anywhere if you're talking about

2135
01:43:35,660 --> 01:43:33,960
identified flying objects IFO that's

2136
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:35,670
would be something better and that's

2137
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:37,440
what they are means the ones we care

2138
01:43:41,690 --> 01:43:40,080
about right disclosure is another matter

2139
01:43:43,550 --> 01:43:41,700
disclosure is not just about something

2140
01:43:45,890 --> 01:43:43,560
in the sky disclosure is about the

2141
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:45,900
imminent announcement and people are

2142
01:43:49,130 --> 01:43:47,490
thinking that way too just thinking that

2143
01:43:53,150 --> 01:43:49,140
way means that they are now in a highly

2144
01:43:54,740 --> 01:43:53,160
expectant position state and they're

2145
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:54,750
getting excited it's hard to get excited

2146
01:44:00,920 --> 01:43:57,930
about another UFO sighting these million

2147
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:00,930
yeah I know I know I kind of get excited

2148
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:02,970
about them at least when it happens to

2149
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:06,570
me but there's you yeah right right

2150
01:44:14,030 --> 01:44:08,730
but you know what I do find interesting

2151
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:14,040
is that I can confidently say and others

2152
01:44:18,530 --> 01:44:16,770
will say I don't need disclosure I've

2153
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:18,540
seen but I've seen I've experienced what

2154
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:20,310
I've experienced I've seen the evidence

2155
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:22,890
I don't need it and then there's the

2156
01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:26,330
rest of the community that absolutely

2157
01:44:31,730 --> 01:44:29,520
disclosure to them means one thing the

2158
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:31,740
head of a state the head of the United

2159
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:34,050
States whatever steps up to the platform

2160
01:44:40,910 --> 01:44:38,130
and says okay on live TV here we go and

2161
01:44:45,140 --> 01:44:40,920
they won't accept anything but that will

2162
01:44:47,420 --> 01:44:45,150
they well I the activist movement is

2163
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:47,430
conveniently defined it as that remember

2164
01:44:51,740 --> 01:44:49,050
we're talking about capital D disclosure

2165
01:44:54,170 --> 01:44:51,750
right that's what it is so if you want

2166
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:54,180
to talk about capital D disclosure it

2167
01:44:58,580 --> 01:44:56,010
there's not several versions of it

2168
01:45:01,040 --> 01:44:58,590
there's only one version of it and if

2169
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:01,050
you say I don't need capital D

2170
01:45:07,340 --> 01:45:03,770
disclosure I already know that is

2171
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:07,350
perfectly legitimate statement I guess

2172
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:09,810
you could say on the same way it's not

2173
01:45:14,990 --> 01:45:12,330
about whether you need it it's the

2174
01:45:17,900 --> 01:45:15,000
country that needs it right the entire

2175
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:17,910
nation needs it don't think about

2176
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:19,920
individuals every individual has their

2177
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:22,290
own view some will be astounded some

2178
01:45:26,570 --> 01:45:24,330
won't care less it's the nation that

2179
01:45:32,420 --> 01:45:26,580
needs it because for a number of reasons

2180
01:45:34,190 --> 01:45:32,430
one it's under undermine trust in

2181
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:34,200
government substantially it's helped to

2182
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:34,800
create a

2183
01:45:40,370 --> 01:45:38,400
huge vast national security state bigger

2184
01:45:42,740 --> 01:45:40,380
than it needs to be and blacker than it

2185
01:45:46,130 --> 01:45:42,750
needs to be or darker more classified

2186
01:45:48,530 --> 01:45:46,140
than it needs to be the research into it

2187
01:45:50,570 --> 01:45:48,540
is stymied except in the deepest

2188
01:45:52,490 --> 01:45:50,580
classified programs there's nothing

2189
01:45:54,580 --> 01:45:52,500
going on in colleges universities not

2190
01:45:57,440 --> 01:45:54,590
taught anywhere in college universities

2191
01:45:59,360 --> 01:45:57,450
we've got huge numbers of contact D

2192
01:46:02,120 --> 01:45:59,370
still in the closet they can't come out

2193
01:46:03,380 --> 01:46:02,130
because the truth embargo is essentially

2194
01:46:05,290 --> 01:46:03,390
based on the fact that there really

2195
01:46:07,940 --> 01:46:05,300
isn't anything bare what's your problem

2196
01:46:11,570 --> 01:46:07,950
there's technology that may very well be

2197
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:11,580
a huge benefit to the nation and the

2198
01:46:15,500 --> 01:46:14,010
human race in general that's not going

2199
01:46:17,870 --> 01:46:15,510
to be available because to bring that

2200
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:17,880
out within the truth embargo so it's

2201
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:19,920
sequestered I guess you could say that's

2202
01:46:25,690 --> 01:46:22,410
just a short list of all the things that

2203
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:25,700
can't happen because formal disclosure

2204
01:46:31,220 --> 01:46:29,040
has not yet taken place it is like

2205
01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:31,230
opening a door it's like there are

2206
01:46:35,540 --> 01:46:34,080
people that there's a door there and on

2207
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,550
the other side is the post disclosure

2208
01:46:39,650 --> 01:46:37,920
world but there's people that already

2209
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:39,660
know that on the other side of that door

2210
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:44,010
is the a a formal understanding of the

2211
01:46:47,330 --> 01:46:45,810
extraterrestrials but since they already

2212
01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:47,340
know there's extraterrestrials here they

2213
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:48,960
don't feel they need to open the door I

2214
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:53,130
get that the door has to open in order

2215
01:46:59,210 --> 01:46:55,530
for the United States and ultimately

2216
01:47:03,010 --> 01:46:59,220
human civilization to go forward right

2217
01:47:06,670 --> 01:47:03,020
now around the world you have a lot of

2218
01:47:10,610 --> 01:47:06,680
substantial number of high-end leaders

2219
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:10,620
and/or groups mostly fanatical that are

2220
01:47:17,140 --> 01:47:12,890
trying to take the human race backwards

2221
01:47:20,930 --> 01:47:17,150
Putin is trying to take Russia back to

2222
01:47:23,900 --> 01:47:20,940
1975 we've got some people in Washington

2223
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:23,910
trying to take the country back to 1960

2224
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:27,210
others back to 1920 we've got radical

2225
01:47:30,620 --> 01:47:28,770
religious groups in the Middle East want

2226
01:47:32,180 --> 01:47:30,630
to take us all back to about 11 11th

2227
01:47:35,030 --> 01:47:32,190
century mm-hmm

2228
01:47:37,370 --> 01:47:35,040
this is not that's interaction we want

2229
01:47:41,060 --> 01:47:37,380
to go we want to go into the future we

2230
01:47:43,250 --> 01:47:41,070
want to prepare for and and advance into

2231
01:47:47,060 --> 01:47:43,260
the future as a global civilization is

2232
01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:47,070
there a something is there a see Steve

2233
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:48,310
is there in

2234
01:47:56,730 --> 01:47:52,480
they're armed pitch that Washington

2235
01:47:59,730 --> 01:47:56,740
could do that would be a softer blow and

2236
01:48:02,730 --> 01:47:59,740
is that actually what is going on now as

2237
01:48:05,670 --> 01:48:02,740
opposed to the hardcore door opening and

2238
01:48:10,260 --> 01:48:05,680
forcing people through it is there a you

2239
01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:10,270
know is there a slow pitch well there is

2240
01:48:14,610 --> 01:48:12,550
a in fact disclosure process is still

2241
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:14,620
underway for a long time it fits and

2242
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:16,110
starts and there's different

2243
01:48:23,940 --> 01:48:21,330
participants over the years and that is

2244
01:48:27,690 --> 01:48:23,950
leading up to the big disclosures a big

2245
01:48:29,070 --> 01:48:27,700
G but the small DS been going on and you

2246
01:48:31,110 --> 01:48:29,080
can call a slow pitch or you could just

2247
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:31,120
say well we haven't got Big D disclosure

2248
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:33,610
but we can continue to do small D so

2249
01:48:38,610 --> 01:48:35,410
when when other governments released UFO

2250
01:48:42,150 --> 01:48:38,620
FILES proactively to the internet small

2251
01:48:44,610 --> 01:48:42,160
D if the CIA releases 13 million

2252
01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:44,620
previously Declassified files but not

2253
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:46,360
generally available they did it just

2254
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:49,090
before the inauguration in 2017 that

2255
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:52,930
small D disclosure so that is happening

2256
01:48:58,050 --> 01:48:56,320
without question and in a posture than

2257
01:49:01,800 --> 01:48:58,060
some strong times but they would they

2258
01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:01,810
were truncated by historical events and

2259
01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:03,040
we just had that happen again

2260
01:49:07,410 --> 01:49:06,190
so you had we had tuned and this is this

2261
01:49:09,060 --> 01:49:07,420
is the basis of a three-hour

2262
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:09,070
presentation that I've now developed

2263
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:11,290
over five months and I've never been

2264
01:49:14,220 --> 01:49:12,730
able to give the whole three hours but

2265
01:49:16,740 --> 01:49:14,230
I've got a couple of two-hour versions

2266
01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:16,750
out there on the YouTube world that

2267
01:49:22,010 --> 01:49:18,310
essentially tries to explain the

2268
01:49:26,220 --> 01:49:22,020
political process and story from 93 to

2269
01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:26,230
2017 and what it comes down to in the

2270
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:28,060
fewest words is there were there two

2271
01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:31,530
major political stories that finally

2272
01:49:40,370 --> 01:49:35,280
essentially intersected in 2000 and

2273
01:49:43,110 --> 01:49:40,380
really 2016 one of them was the

2274
01:49:45,780 --> 01:49:43,120
historical connection wasn't asked for

2275
01:49:48,410 --> 01:49:45,790
it just happened between the Clinton

2276
01:49:50,610 --> 01:49:48,420
dynasty the Clinton political team

2277
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:50,620
beginning right in the first term of

2278
01:49:57,780 --> 01:49:54,610
Bill Clinton and the e key issue which

2279
01:50:00,270 --> 01:49:57,790
has followed them down ever since 25

2280
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:00,280
years though they have stayed away from

2281
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:02,290
it not talked about it but there

2282
01:50:05,480 --> 01:50:03,370
then they have they have occasionally

2283
01:50:07,740 --> 01:50:05,490
talked about it that was mostly Podesta

2284
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:07,750
they assessed for dropping breadcrumbs

2285
01:50:13,410 --> 01:50:09,370
over the years because they had a plan

2286
01:50:16,740 --> 01:50:13,420
and that plan was that SEC that Hillary

2287
01:50:18,210 --> 01:50:16,750
Clinton first lady to bill during the

2288
01:50:19,830 --> 01:50:18,220
Rockefeller initiative was going to get

2289
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:19,840
the presidency and disclose she was

2290
01:50:23,700 --> 01:50:21,250
going to take the legacy that her

2291
01:50:26,850 --> 01:50:23,710
husband was denied just like Carter was

2292
01:50:28,590 --> 01:50:26,860
denied stonewalled run around some silly

2293
01:50:30,060 --> 01:50:28,600
report was put out by the Air Force

2294
01:50:33,420 --> 01:50:30,070
ultimately which is embarrassing to

2295
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:33,430
everybody concerned and and of course

2296
01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:35,920
they were attacked and unusual ways

2297
01:50:40,710 --> 01:50:37,630
probably more excessively than some

2298
01:50:42,270 --> 01:50:40,720
impeached yeah they had a tough eight

2299
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:42,280
years or they were not happy ever mad as

2300
01:50:46,950 --> 01:50:44,770
hell and the plan was she was going to

2301
01:50:49,950 --> 01:50:46,960
bed forget that legacy when it would

2302
01:50:52,650 --> 01:50:49,960
happen was uncertain and that that had

2303
01:50:55,860 --> 01:50:52,660
been going on for 25 years as we

2304
01:51:03,210 --> 01:50:55,870
approach the election of 2016

2305
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:03,220
and since 2001 Grant Cameron had had put

2306
01:51:06,510 --> 01:51:04,690
up a great deal of information on his

2307
01:51:08,670 --> 01:51:06,520
presidential UFO site which is a

2308
01:51:11,790 --> 01:51:08,680
narrative he put up a narrative and kept

2309
01:51:13,890 --> 01:51:11,800
adding to it but I was the activists

2310
01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:13,900
began to shove that narrative under the

2311
01:51:19,530 --> 01:51:16,450
nose of journalists and anyone that I

2312
01:51:21,780 --> 01:51:19,540
thought was relevant for the next 15

2313
01:51:23,940 --> 01:51:21,790
years and only the truth embargo

2314
01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:23,950
prevented it becoming a major story and

2315
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:25,060
since the Clinton none of the Clinton

2316
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:26,560
people would talk about it they went on

2317
01:51:32,850 --> 01:51:30,490
silent except for Podesta the thing they

2318
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:32,860
were able to essentially continue on

2319
01:51:37,890 --> 01:51:35,110
into the future without having to speak

2320
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:37,900
to that issue that is it right up until

2321
01:51:41,670 --> 01:51:39,070
the point she runs for the presidency

2322
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:41,680
second time that's the that's the first

2323
01:51:46,470 --> 01:51:43,930
political initiative the second one

2324
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:46,480
which ends up women are being even more

2325
01:51:53,790 --> 01:51:49,840
important gets put together in 2015 and

2326
01:51:56,270 --> 01:51:53,800
that political initiative emerges out of

2327
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:56,280
the Department of Defense and the CIA

2328
01:52:01,440 --> 01:51:58,090
essentially the military intelligence

2329
01:52:06,450 --> 01:52:01,450
complex and that initiative was

2330
01:52:07,890 --> 01:52:06,460
triggered in my view because the quite a

2331
01:52:10,830 --> 01:52:07,900
few people inside the military

2332
01:52:12,690 --> 01:52:10,840
intelligence complex looking at their

2333
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:12,700
windows and they're seeing two things

2334
01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:16,030
that trouble been greatly one was

2335
01:52:21,110 --> 01:52:18,070
there were all these articles being

2336
01:52:24,030 --> 01:52:21,120
written throughout all of 2015 into 2016

2337
01:52:27,890 --> 01:52:24,040
about the connection between the et et

2338
01:52:31,470 --> 01:52:27,900
issue and Clinton and Bill and Podesta

2339
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:31,480
hundreds of them that was PR G's doing

2340
01:52:36,750 --> 01:52:33,730
that was the new political initiative I

2341
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:36,760
was driving that out of Washington DC my

2342
01:52:42,270 --> 01:52:39,760
publicist was approaching the media and

2343
01:52:45,180 --> 01:52:42,280
then I was building in the television

2344
01:52:46,260 --> 01:52:45,190
media and I was building up connections

2345
01:52:48,420 --> 01:52:46,270
in the print meeting getting these

2346
01:52:50,010 --> 01:52:48,430
stories out because it was sufficiently

2347
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:50,020
established they were going to do it and

2348
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:52,690
the second thing then I see people saw

2349
01:52:58,100 --> 01:52:55,840
the people leaning in our direction was

2350
01:53:00,960 --> 01:52:58,110
that she was heavily ahead in the polls

2351
01:53:03,540 --> 01:53:00,970
it became that the Republicans had

2352
01:53:04,050 --> 01:53:03,550
20-some candidates it was a three-ring

2353
01:53:06,990 --> 01:53:04,060
circus

2354
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:07,000
she had essentially one opponent really

2355
01:53:11,070 --> 01:53:09,970
no Mally didn't last very long and she's

2356
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:11,080
had in the polls she's gonna be the

2357
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:13,330
president and they calculated rightly

2358
01:53:17,250 --> 01:53:15,730
that if she won the election she was

2359
01:53:18,620 --> 01:53:17,260
going to disclose the et presence she

2360
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:18,630
was going to weigh around either and

2361
01:53:23,970 --> 01:53:21,730
what would that mean well it would mean

2362
01:53:27,210 --> 01:53:23,980
that the announcement would come out of

2363
01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:27,220
the pro right house and they were going

2364
01:53:29,910 --> 01:53:29,470
to get thrown under the bus it's that

2365
01:53:33,480 --> 01:53:29,920
simple

2366
01:53:35,250 --> 01:53:33,490
the politician would announce it the

2367
01:53:37,050 --> 01:53:35,260
people in Party would rally around her

2368
01:53:38,580 --> 01:53:37,060
she would get all kinds of glory and

2369
01:53:40,170 --> 01:53:38,590
then when all the hard questions come

2370
01:53:41,700 --> 01:53:40,180
she'd just say hey look what could we do

2371
01:53:43,530 --> 01:53:41,710
the Pentagon wouldn't let us have it

2372
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:43,540
they stonewalled us they've lied about

2373
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:45,730
it for decades they're out of control

2374
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:48,490
yada-yada-yada and and 800m under the

2375
01:53:51,650 --> 01:53:50,080
bus and then they didn't want that

2376
01:53:53,850 --> 01:53:51,660
they're not happy about that at all

2377
01:53:55,890 --> 01:53:53,860
because they see themselves as the

2378
01:53:59,160 --> 01:53:55,900
protectors of the nation good guys white

2379
01:54:00,720 --> 01:53:59,170
hats doing what had to be done and they

2380
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:00,730
classified the hell out of this and they

2381
01:54:05,340 --> 01:54:02,770
felt they had pretty good reason and so

2382
01:54:07,410 --> 01:54:05,350
what do you do in that situation these

2383
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:07,420
are key serve people that have creat

2384
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:09,310
pride and what they do and they're not

2385
01:54:11,850 --> 01:54:10,330
doing for the money you don't have

2386
01:54:12,420 --> 01:54:11,860
multimillionaires running around the

2387
01:54:15,450 --> 01:54:12,430
Pentagon

2388
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:15,460
so they made a decision a group of the

2389
01:54:20,340 --> 01:54:17,110
made a decision to try to get out ahead

2390
01:54:21,870 --> 01:54:20,350
of the issue a whole decision which I

2391
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:21,880
still don't know how they pulled it off

2392
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:24,730
where and malaya let me ask you this

2393
01:54:29,310 --> 01:54:28,000
really quick the announcement with that

2394
01:54:33,330 --> 01:54:29,320
announcement

2395
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:33,340
have been won we are not alone in the

2396
01:54:41,910 --> 01:54:38,530
universe or would it have been - we have

2397
01:54:44,700 --> 01:54:41,920
made contact and we have the technology

2398
01:54:47,340 --> 01:54:44,710
and and Roswell was real I mean that's

2399
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:47,350
two different announcements which way

2400
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:49,330
would they I feel him with it there's a

2401
01:54:52,890 --> 01:54:52,090
third you mean there's a third the basic

2402
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:52,900
announcement is there's

2403
01:54:59,280 --> 01:54:56,530
extraterrestrials here contact no

2404
01:55:01,500 --> 01:54:59,290
contact that's post disclosure there's

2405
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:01,510
extraterrestrials here we are not alone

2406
01:55:05,820 --> 01:55:04,450
in the universe could mean we've gotten

2407
01:55:08,340 --> 01:55:05,830
a signal from outer space

2408
01:55:09,900 --> 01:55:08,350
right we found a planet that has like

2409
01:55:11,730 --> 01:55:09,910
whatever don't forget that right

2410
01:55:13,710 --> 01:55:11,740
extraterrestrial that's it that is

2411
01:55:17,700 --> 01:55:13,720
disclosure that is all they have to

2412
01:55:19,740 --> 01:55:17,710
announce essentially to trigger the post

2413
01:55:22,070 --> 01:55:19,750
disclosure world right and then of

2414
01:55:24,990 --> 01:55:22,080
course all kinds of things are possible

2415
01:55:27,330 --> 01:55:25,000
it's not a difficult thing to do but you

2416
01:55:29,790 --> 01:55:27,340
need the Pentagon you need the military

2417
01:55:31,260 --> 01:55:29,800
intelligence complex in agreement with

2418
01:55:34,650 --> 01:55:31,270
you if you want it to go well

2419
01:55:36,660 --> 01:55:34,660
and of course of all the coverage that

2420
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:36,670
had taken place through a campaign which

2421
01:55:40,290 --> 01:55:38,050
was one of the best what one of the

2422
01:55:41,790 --> 01:55:40,300
reasons why I did it was even if it

2423
01:55:43,530 --> 01:55:41,800
didn't succeed in generating disclosure

2424
01:55:45,570 --> 01:55:43,540
during the campaign under Obama

2425
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:45,580
it would create so much interest that

2426
01:55:48,810 --> 01:55:47,170
once the campaign was over and she's won

2427
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:48,820
the presidency their scores the scores

2428
01:55:53,430 --> 01:55:51,130
of reporters gonna just descend on her

2429
01:55:54,630 --> 01:55:53,440
with questions about all of the stuff

2430
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:54,640
that had been said during that campaign

2431
01:55:59,580 --> 01:55:57,520
and all the media coverage now all she

2432
01:56:01,470 --> 01:55:59,590
had to do was fend them off for 70 days

2433
01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:01,480
roughly while the transition is underway

2434
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:03,430
and then when she's in the White House

2435
01:56:08,220 --> 01:56:05,710
say what do you want to know yeah I'm

2436
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:08,230
working on it right now and she wouldn't

2437
01:56:12,180 --> 01:56:10,810
wait it around because there's always a

2438
01:56:14,130 --> 01:56:12,190
potential with another head of state

2439
01:56:16,230 --> 01:56:14,140
might do it such as Vladimir Putin

2440
01:56:17,610 --> 01:56:16,240
mm-hmm so she wanted that legacy she

2441
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:17,620
didn't want to go become the president

2442
01:56:21,210 --> 01:56:19,210
and Vladimir Putin announces that she

2443
01:56:24,690 --> 01:56:21,220
has to say oh yeah I meant to tell you

2444
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:24,700
ah so they knew this and so what

2445
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:26,650
happened is amazing thing is that

2446
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:29,170
they're thinking along these lines but

2447
01:56:33,180 --> 01:56:30,730
so it's another fellow by the name of

2448
01:56:34,980 --> 01:56:33,190
Tom DeLonge and because he's a very

2449
01:56:36,990 --> 01:56:34,990
wealthy rock star made sold a lot of

2450
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:37,000
Records very interested in the issues

2451
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:39,130
read scores books and he's been poking

2452
01:56:43,050 --> 01:56:41,890
at him for some time he could fly

2453
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:43,060
anywhere the country this

2454
01:56:47,190 --> 01:56:45,760
meeting some some meeting we have a

2455
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:47,200
number of high-ranking people but the

2456
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:49,450
public can attend party whatever he

2457
01:56:53,910 --> 01:56:51,040
could go there he tried a buttonhole him

2458
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:53,920
and what he may or may not have known it

2459
01:57:00,510 --> 01:56:56,530
but he wanted to do what they wanted to

2460
01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:00,520
do and when he pitched them it connected

2461
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:02,710
whether he was shocked I don't know and

2462
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:05,490
the pitch was you guys are the good guys

2463
01:57:10,220 --> 01:57:07,360
you need we need to start getting

2464
01:57:12,750 --> 01:57:10,230
information out to the public that

2465
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:12,760
that'll be good for the country it'll be

2466
01:57:16,620 --> 01:57:14,110
good for you you'll get ahead of the

2467
01:57:18,420 --> 01:57:16,630
issue and you can be shown that you're

2468
01:57:19,950 --> 01:57:18,430
the good guys and he showed a lot of

2469
01:57:21,810 --> 01:57:19,960
respect to them he showed he was

2470
01:57:25,170 --> 01:57:21,820
responsible he wasn't gonna go crazy

2471
01:57:27,180 --> 01:57:25,180
about it and and they're thinking we

2472
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:27,190
want to go ahead of this issue which

2473
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:28,810
means we've got to do something outside

2474
01:57:31,980 --> 01:57:30,130
the Pentagon they can't do it from

2475
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:31,990
within the Pentagon it's going to have

2476
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:33,970
to be outside they're going to have to

2477
01:57:37,770 --> 01:57:35,650
be out of government but there were

2478
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:37,780
plenty of heavy-duty career people there

2479
01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:40,570
that were retired or about to retire but

2480
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:42,520
if we go out there and one of us is run

2481
01:57:47,430 --> 01:57:45,490
is the head of the program there's gonna

2482
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:47,440
be a lot of discussed it's going to be

2483
01:57:53,310 --> 01:57:50,250
who's heading the program Oh CIA guy ah

2484
01:57:54,780 --> 01:57:53,320
so what if we had a spokesperson was the

2485
01:57:58,830 --> 01:57:54,790
head of the program the CEO of the

2486
01:58:01,260 --> 01:57:58,840
project who was a 42 going on 32 rock

2487
01:58:03,630 --> 01:58:01,270
guy with a huge following and a huge

2488
01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:03,640
Twitter account and whatever who relates

2489
01:58:06,180 --> 01:58:05,110
to people and he has never worked in

2490
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:06,190
governments never had classified

2491
01:58:10,350 --> 01:58:08,530
clearance this this is the kind of

2492
01:58:13,890 --> 01:58:10,360
person you want to front that and they

2493
01:58:16,110 --> 01:58:13,900
put this thing together throughout 2015

2494
01:58:19,790 --> 01:58:16,120
that was the second and that's a

2495
01:58:22,350 --> 01:58:19,800
political initiative and then the long

2496
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:22,360
hints about it he basically comes out

2497
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:23,770
and says what that's going to happen he

2498
01:58:29,340 --> 01:58:26,170
doesn't get to say exactly what in March

2499
01:58:30,900 --> 01:58:29,350
of 2016 to George Noory said there's

2500
01:58:32,250 --> 01:58:30,910
gonna be a books books coming and it's

2501
01:58:33,690 --> 01:58:32,260
gonna be material coming and I've got an

2502
01:58:35,340 --> 01:58:33,700
advisory team and I'm talking to

2503
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:35,350
high-level people and Pentagon the CIA

2504
01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:36,970
and all of this and I'm going I don't

2505
01:58:40,620 --> 01:58:38,920
know it's hard for me to believe that

2506
01:58:42,450 --> 01:58:40,630
until a month later the first book

2507
01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:42,460
secret machines was published and I

2508
01:58:48,270 --> 01:58:44,950
realize I guess this thing is real and I

2509
01:58:51,290 --> 01:58:48,280
believe the plan was okay he sort of

2510
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:51,300
announced it on the show but the formal

2511
01:58:55,110 --> 01:58:53,410
announcement in other words the

2512
01:58:56,550 --> 01:58:55,120
announcement of the to the stars Academy

2513
01:58:57,170 --> 01:58:56,560
the project itself and the people

2514
01:58:59,660 --> 01:58:57,180
involved

2515
01:59:02,450 --> 01:58:59,670
was probably slated to happen right

2516
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:02,460
after the election sometime between

2517
01:59:08,930 --> 01:59:05,330
November early November and mid January

2518
01:59:11,900 --> 01:59:08,940
or at minimum latest right after the

2519
01:59:14,090 --> 01:59:11,910
inauguration why because if they don't

2520
01:59:16,430 --> 01:59:14,100
get ahead of the issue before Clinton

2521
01:59:19,220 --> 01:59:16,440
makes her move they don't get the PR

2522
01:59:21,260 --> 01:59:19,230
advantage and the time he was just about

2523
01:59:23,330 --> 01:59:21,270
what you would have expected he and he

2524
01:59:26,030 --> 01:59:23,340
hints at at March they announced it in

2525
01:59:28,550 --> 01:59:26,040
December but what happened of course is

2526
01:59:30,710 --> 01:59:28,560
that she didn't win now I don't even she

2527
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:30,720
not win but in the run-up to the

2528
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:32,490
election is when WikiLeaks released all

2529
01:59:37,010 --> 01:59:34,320
the Podesta emails with with Tom DeLonge

2530
01:59:38,690 --> 01:59:37,020
all over them and and a lot of what was

2531
01:59:41,870 --> 01:59:38,700
going on which is only happening in the

2532
01:59:43,490 --> 01:59:41,880
Democratic side not surprisingly it the

2533
01:59:45,380 --> 01:59:43,500
long didn't approach the Republican side

2534
01:59:46,510 --> 01:59:45,390
because they weren't going to win and if

2535
01:59:50,210 --> 01:59:46,520
they had they weren't going to disclose

2536
01:59:51,380 --> 01:59:50,220
so the whole thing was outed and names

2537
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:51,390
were named and there were some

2538
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:53,040
photographs and all of this and that

2539
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:55,050
wasn't supposed to come out it created a

2540
01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:56,610
very substantial problem for this

2541
02:00:01,310 --> 01:59:58,170
project because it's a delicate thing

2542
02:00:03,950 --> 02:00:01,320
you've got but 30 or 40 people inside

2543
02:00:06,620 --> 02:00:03,960
the m.i.c who were planning to have a

2544
02:00:08,930 --> 02:00:06,630
group come out and start engaging the

2545
02:00:10,970 --> 02:00:08,940
public in providing information based on

2546
02:00:13,550 --> 02:00:10,980
authorizations we still don't fully know

2547
02:00:15,500 --> 02:00:13,560
about how they're doing it and how they

2548
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:15,510
get out they're able to do it and and

2549
02:00:18,830 --> 02:00:17,250
and how is it that the opposition to

2550
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:18,840
this and we know there is opposition has

2551
02:00:26,750 --> 02:00:20,850
not been able to stop it

2552
02:00:29,230 --> 02:00:26,760
that that that plan was tossed up in the

2553
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:29,240
air and now what the hell do they do now

2554
02:00:34,850 --> 02:00:32,010
they've got a new president and he's

2555
02:00:37,310 --> 02:00:34,860
unlike any president before what's going

2556
02:00:38,780 --> 02:00:37,320
to happen so they step back reorganized

2557
02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:38,790
and then waited a little lot of see

2558
02:00:43,550 --> 02:00:40,800
what's going to happen and what happened

2559
02:00:46,700 --> 02:00:43,560
was virtually from the day of the

2560
02:00:48,650 --> 02:00:46,710
election each passing week things got

2561
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:48,660
more and more bizarre more and more

2562
02:00:53,270 --> 02:00:51,570
chaotic until we had a third level you

2563
02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:53,280
know a category three political

2564
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:55,440
hurricane which is now approaching a

2565
02:01:00,740 --> 02:00:58,560
category five and so the you don't do

2566
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:00,750
anything in the middle of that but they

2567
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:03,570
had a problem they had one major problem

2568
02:01:09,140 --> 02:01:06,210
and that is is that they still couldn't

2569
02:01:10,969 --> 02:01:09,150
discount Vladimir Putin we have to why

2570
02:01:13,580 --> 02:01:10,979
they could have waited yeah yeah

2571
02:01:16,009 --> 02:01:13,590
I've got to take a break right here as

2572
02:01:18,020 --> 02:01:16,019
you started to take that pause I already

2573
02:01:21,020 --> 02:01:18,030
click the commercials so there's go we

2574
02:01:21,799 --> 02:01:21,030
got a yeah that was a it was good it was

2575
02:01:25,819 --> 02:01:21,809
a good Segway

2576
02:01:27,439 --> 02:01:25,829
well we'll jump on a return who Putin on

2577
02:01:30,259 --> 02:01:27,449
the return our guess tonight's tea

2578
02:01:32,390 --> 02:01:30,269
batter we're talking about disclosure

2579
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:32,400
fade to black I'm your signature it's

2580
02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:34,170
more Steve after this short break

2581
02:01:47,270 --> 02:01:36,790
stay with us

2582
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:50,450
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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02:01:55,980 --> 02:01:53,490
you're listening to faint and black

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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[Music]

2648
02:05:35,110 --> 02:05:32,620
welcome back fade to black Camille

2649
02:05:37,300 --> 02:05:35,120
stupid Church we're talking disclosure

2650
02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:37,310
tonight we have Steve Bassett with this

2651
02:05:45,070 --> 02:05:39,890
executive director of the paradigm

2652
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:45,080
research group and Steve I wanted to I

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02:05:51,790 --> 02:05:48,770
want to before we are you with us

2654
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:51,800
oh yes okay I just got an echo there

2655
02:05:56,590 --> 02:05:52,930
okay

2656
02:05:58,240 --> 02:05:56,600
the I want to go back to your comment

2657
02:06:01,870 --> 02:05:58,250
that you made right before the break

2658
02:06:06,370 --> 02:06:01,880
about Hillary not getting elected and

2659
02:06:11,439 --> 02:06:06,380
I've got a weird echo going on huh are

2660
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:11,449
you there oh I lost Steve yeah that was

2661
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:14,930
a weird echo let's bring Steve back if

2662
02:06:23,890 --> 02:06:17,810
that was weird and we'll do a quick

2663
02:06:30,370 --> 02:06:23,900
reset but what I wanted to do with Steve

2664
02:06:33,490 --> 02:06:30,380
as I wait for him to come back to us and

2665
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:33,500
know it's gone see see that they're

2666
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:35,360
listening Steve they're messing with

2667
02:06:41,290 --> 02:06:39,050
this man my thought is I think my phone

2668
02:06:44,170 --> 02:06:41,300
is tapped quite often and it really

2669
02:06:45,490 --> 02:06:44,180
causes a number of issues and I used to

2670
02:06:47,770 --> 02:06:45,500
kind of know when that's happening this

2671
02:06:49,390 --> 02:06:47,780
could be another and weary said we're

2672
02:06:52,209 --> 02:06:49,400
clear they'll have to come back and

2673
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:52,219
chase us down I wonder I wanted to go

2674
02:06:56,260 --> 02:06:54,560
back before we move forward into Putin

2675
02:06:58,510 --> 02:06:56,270
you made a very interesting comment

2676
02:07:01,360 --> 02:06:58,520
right before the break about Hillary not

2677
02:07:03,220 --> 02:07:01,370
getting elected and it kind of D railing

2678
02:07:08,380 --> 02:07:03,230
things a little bit I want to fast

2679
02:07:10,540 --> 02:07:08,390
forward to contact in the deserts I had

2680
02:07:12,130 --> 02:07:10,550
a panel on the last night I don't know

2681
02:07:15,580 --> 02:07:12,140
if you were in attendance if you were

2682
02:07:19,330 --> 02:07:15,590
there great but Peter Lavetta was on the

2683
02:07:22,060 --> 02:07:19,340
panel and he had brought up the three

2684
02:07:24,850 --> 02:07:22,070
videos that were released and as he

2685
02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:24,860
brought them up I had you know over a

2686
02:07:30,479 --> 02:07:26,000
thousand people in that room

2687
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:30,489
standing-room-only packed and I heard

2688
02:07:35,979 --> 02:07:33,440
murmuring like boos and I was like why

2689
02:07:38,260 --> 02:07:35,989
didn't I turn to the audience and I said

2690
02:07:40,650 --> 02:07:38,270
well wait a minute you guys are

2691
02:07:44,340 --> 02:07:40,660
we're excited about those videos right

2692
02:07:48,729 --> 02:07:44,350
Steve you could have heard a pin drop

2693
02:07:52,330 --> 02:07:48,739
not whining clap it was dead silence and

2694
02:07:55,540 --> 02:07:52,340
then they started booing and I thought

2695
02:07:58,300 --> 02:07:55,550
what is going on here and the mood I

2696
02:07:59,979 --> 02:07:58,310
think has changed inside of the

2697
02:08:03,340 --> 02:07:59,989
community I can't speak for everything

2698
02:08:07,150 --> 02:08:03,350
else but there at that moment it was a

2699
02:08:10,120 --> 02:08:07,160
very difficult silence there and I felt

2700
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:10,130
I felt for Peter who is a friend of mine

2701
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:13,760
and it was it was it was a little

2702
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:17,090
embarrassing so do you think that the

2703
02:08:22,540 --> 02:08:19,850
the momentum that was built back in

2704
02:08:24,220 --> 02:08:22,550
December do you think it's kind of died

2705
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:24,230
off a little bit and is there a way to

2706
02:08:33,820 --> 02:08:29,930
bring it back well first why do you

2707
02:08:36,010 --> 02:08:33,830
think they were booing I look I'm on

2708
02:08:39,790 --> 02:08:36,020
stage you can go back and watch that

2709
02:08:41,860 --> 02:08:39,800
video it caught me by surprise okay it

2710
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:41,870
caught me by surprise and then they

2711
02:08:47,260 --> 02:08:44,650
booed about the New York Times article

2712
02:08:54,670 --> 02:08:47,270
all right yeah I know the answer to this

2713
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:54,680
I can answer it the the fact is the the

2714
02:09:00,490 --> 02:08:57,770
truth embargo is in it's roughly 70 is

2715
02:09:02,310 --> 02:09:00,500
70 first year the government's lied and

2716
02:09:04,270 --> 02:09:02,320
lied in line for decades and decades and

2717
02:09:07,420 --> 02:09:04,280
of course the military intelligence

2718
02:09:10,270 --> 02:09:07,430
complex has committed and done a lot of

2719
02:09:12,190 --> 02:09:10,280
nasty things often times it under the

2720
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:12,200
demands of the political ruling class

2721
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:15,520
and there's plenty of people mad at it

2722
02:09:20,740 --> 02:09:17,890
upset with it

2723
02:09:21,940 --> 02:09:20,750
now we have a group that's very much

2724
02:09:25,330 --> 02:09:21,950
connected to the military intelligence

2725
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:25,340
complex certainly all the CI people are

2726
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:26,570
still connected though they may no

2727
02:09:32,170 --> 02:09:28,730
longer be on a payroll and they come out

2728
02:09:33,729 --> 02:09:32,180
with this so not surprisingly there were

2729
02:09:36,660 --> 02:09:33,739
a lot of people that jumped on the

2730
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:36,670
internet to pick it apart and

2731
02:09:42,340 --> 02:09:38,810
accusations were made and assertions

2732
02:09:44,350 --> 02:09:42,350
were made the videos were attacked and

2733
02:09:47,170 --> 02:09:44,360
and this is this is the internet you've

2734
02:09:51,010 --> 02:09:47,180
got millions of people on it so if just

2735
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:51,020
1% of them decide to issue a definitive

2736
02:09:54,060 --> 02:09:52,000
statement of their

2737
02:09:57,030 --> 02:09:54,070
piñon then you've got a whole lot of

2738
02:10:01,500 --> 02:09:57,040
opinions flying around and a lot of

2739
02:10:04,530 --> 02:10:01,510
people bought into this meaning oh of

2740
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:04,540
course I'm familiar with them I've read

2741
02:10:08,610 --> 02:10:06,880
these read these skeptic skeptical

2742
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:08,620
analyses I've read them the attack

2743
02:10:13,290 --> 02:10:10,090
analyses and so forth

2744
02:10:16,110 --> 02:10:13,300
none of them impress me they don't have

2745
02:10:19,650 --> 02:10:16,120
the substance they did stray from common

2746
02:10:21,270 --> 02:10:19,660
sense and they're misleading but there's

2747
02:10:24,210 --> 02:10:21,280
enough distrust out there that people

2748
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:24,220
are prepared to to buy into these

2749
02:10:29,730 --> 02:10:26,800
attacks on this initiative and I

2750
02:10:31,590 --> 02:10:29,740
understand that and that and and so they

2751
02:10:33,390 --> 02:10:31,600
didn't they're not a lot of them don't

2752
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:33,400
want to believe what the to the Stars

2753
02:10:38,250 --> 02:10:36,370
Academy is putting out and of course the

2754
02:10:39,630 --> 02:10:38,260
president is telling that the New York

2755
02:10:41,250 --> 02:10:39,640
Times there's nothing but fake news I

2756
02:10:43,050 --> 02:10:41,260
mean this is again this is what I'm

2757
02:10:43,980 --> 02:10:43,060
saying this is an extremely complex

2758
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:43,990
situation right now

2759
02:10:48,030 --> 02:10:46,450
mMmmm which is where I kind of come in

2760
02:10:51,260 --> 02:10:48,040
because these people don't have the

2761
02:10:54,180 --> 02:10:51,270
luxury very few people in that audience

2762
02:10:57,180 --> 02:10:54,190
have the luxury of focusing on this for

2763
02:11:00,180 --> 02:10:57,190
21 years so let's say that I have a

2764
02:11:01,860 --> 02:11:00,190
little broader more deep perspective on

2765
02:11:03,810 --> 02:11:01,870
what is happening with this initiative

2766
02:11:05,370 --> 02:11:03,820
that what I call the to the Stars

2767
02:11:09,060 --> 02:11:05,380
Academy I'm leaving off the arts and

2768
02:11:12,450 --> 02:11:09,070
science they went too far and so they

2769
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:12,460
were wrong but that you know my job is

2770
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:15,130
to hopefully provide the insight that

2771
02:11:20,460 --> 02:11:16,690
will allow people to start seeing this

2772
02:11:25,620 --> 02:11:20,470
more clearly now there's no question

2773
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:25,630
that you know attacks and and assertions

2774
02:11:32,220 --> 02:11:29,530
of misleading material as well as even

2775
02:11:33,930 --> 02:11:32,230
false flags whatever or it's going to

2776
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:33,940
cool the momentum but the thing that's

2777
02:11:37,860 --> 02:11:35,650
mostly cooling the momentum is the

2778
02:11:39,210 --> 02:11:37,870
political chaos is underway which is

2779
02:11:41,130 --> 02:11:39,220
consuming the media we have a

2780
02:11:42,870 --> 02:11:41,140
full-fledged media frenzy underway it's

2781
02:11:44,730 --> 02:11:42,880
it's already been going for some time

2782
02:11:46,620 --> 02:11:44,740
it's going to continue to build right

2783
02:11:48,750 --> 02:11:46,630
and generally the media can only do one

2784
02:11:51,110 --> 02:11:48,760
friends at a time they can't they're not

2785
02:11:54,810 --> 02:11:51,120
big they don't they can't they're not a

2786
02:11:58,260 --> 02:11:54,820
multitasking eating frenzy or feeding

2787
02:12:00,240 --> 02:11:58,270
frenzy operation so until this storm

2788
02:12:02,070 --> 02:12:00,250
settles down everything is kind of

2789
02:12:04,899 --> 02:12:02,080
slowed down and the et disclosure

2790
02:12:07,660 --> 02:12:04,909
movement it's hardly the only thing

2791
02:12:09,399 --> 02:12:07,670
so I sight so of what I'm gonna say is

2792
02:12:12,189 --> 02:12:09,409
yeah please have slowed down but I

2793
02:12:15,310 --> 02:12:12,199
wouldn't worry about it well the what I

2794
02:12:17,350 --> 02:12:15,320
was impressed with when when those

2795
02:12:19,660 --> 02:12:17,360
announcements happened through the New

2796
02:12:23,740 --> 02:12:19,670
York Times and mass media of everywhere

2797
02:12:26,140 --> 02:12:23,750
on that Saturday on December 16th and I

2798
02:12:28,780 --> 02:12:26,150
have stated publicly I nearly crashed my

2799
02:12:32,530 --> 02:12:28,790
car I was you know driving and I heard

2800
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:32,540
it on talk radio and it and I was so

2801
02:12:38,439 --> 02:12:36,110
happy and and I know that this community

2802
02:12:43,209 --> 02:12:38,449
was happy it was like okay finally you

2803
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:43,219
know finally but is there a way what

2804
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:47,290
would have to be next for to the stars

2805
02:12:53,560 --> 02:12:51,170
for the media to it's got to be elevated

2806
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:53,570
you know for the for the media to take

2807
02:12:57,129 --> 02:12:55,610
another swing like they did and it was

2808
02:12:59,439 --> 02:12:57,139
great they knocked it out of the park

2809
02:13:03,100 --> 02:12:59,449
but the next one's got to be even bigger

2810
02:13:05,500 --> 02:13:03,110
I so what is it that they could do and

2811
02:13:08,020 --> 02:13:05,510
I'm specifically referring to to the

2812
02:13:10,570 --> 02:13:08,030
stars and if this is coming out of the

2813
02:13:12,399 --> 02:13:10,580
Pentagon then they're gonna have to step

2814
02:13:17,140 --> 02:13:12,409
up their game this next time around to

2815
02:13:19,330 --> 02:13:17,150
keep the media involved let me tie it

2816
02:13:21,939 --> 02:13:19,340
together for you and this one will pick

2817
02:13:23,709 --> 02:13:21,949
up where I left off before the break and

2818
02:13:27,010 --> 02:13:23,719
now I'll tie this together for you

2819
02:13:28,660 --> 02:13:27,020
as I said Clinton loses the election and

2820
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:28,670
the entire initiative is thrown open

2821
02:13:34,209 --> 02:13:32,210
here they they clearly have to step back

2822
02:13:37,870 --> 02:13:34,219
there were I think certain people

2823
02:13:39,610 --> 02:13:37,880
involved it was drew and others had to

2824
02:13:42,129 --> 02:13:39,620
take their place and that took some time

2825
02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:42,139
to work out and they needed to see what

2826
02:13:46,030 --> 02:13:43,250
was going to happen with this new

2827
02:13:48,970 --> 02:13:46,040
president it could settle down very

2828
02:13:50,709 --> 02:13:48,980
quickly and things might actually start

2829
02:13:54,820 --> 02:13:50,719
to become somewhat normal there was a

2830
02:13:57,419 --> 02:13:54,830
new some new initiatives in place but

2831
02:14:00,100 --> 02:13:57,429
what happened of course is the hurricane

2832
02:14:01,479 --> 02:14:00,110
began a category one it's slowly

2833
02:14:04,030 --> 02:14:01,489
building toward a category five

2834
02:14:05,470 --> 02:14:04,040
political hurricane and if you've ever

2835
02:14:07,479 --> 02:14:05,480
been in a hurricane it's probably not a

2836
02:14:12,430 --> 02:14:07,489
good time to do your homework play cards

2837
02:14:15,820 --> 02:14:12,440
or just critical thinking so we are we

2838
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:15,830
are in an extremely chaotic situation so

2839
02:14:18,719 --> 02:14:17,360
they had that there so they're waiting

2840
02:14:20,489 --> 02:14:18,729
that out

2841
02:14:24,449 --> 02:14:20,499
they're reorganizing and the months are

2842
02:14:25,979 --> 02:14:24,459
going by in other words they had to pull

2843
02:14:27,899 --> 02:14:25,989
back without question and reorganize

2844
02:14:29,129 --> 02:14:27,909
okay fine so the question I had in my

2845
02:14:31,229 --> 02:14:29,139
mind was will that when were they

2846
02:14:33,629 --> 02:14:31,239
launched when how long would they delay

2847
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:33,639
the actual launch which was planned

2848
02:14:38,669 --> 02:14:35,530
I again right after the election in my

2849
02:14:40,830 --> 02:14:38,679
view who knows they might have waited to

2850
02:14:44,819 --> 02:14:40,840
a way out to the midterms they might

2851
02:14:47,339 --> 02:14:44,829
have put it off indefinitely so what are

2852
02:14:51,209 --> 02:14:47,349
you gonna do well what they did was they

2853
02:14:53,549 --> 02:14:51,219
announced on October the 11th with a

2854
02:14:55,979 --> 02:14:53,559
facebook video presentation and the

2855
02:14:59,939 --> 02:14:55,989
launch of the website and they laid it

2856
02:15:01,259 --> 02:14:59,949
all out and that was a big deal it was

2857
02:15:03,020 --> 02:15:01,269
low-key though okay they could have done

2858
02:15:05,850 --> 02:15:03,030
a much bigger splash but they didn't

2859
02:15:06,870 --> 02:15:05,860
again they're in other words they had

2860
02:15:09,049 --> 02:15:06,880
already made a decision we're going to

2861
02:15:11,250 --> 02:15:09,059
launch but we're going to slow walk this

2862
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:11,260
because there's a hurricane going on

2863
02:15:15,959 --> 02:15:13,690
over our heads and that hurricane is

2864
02:15:17,879 --> 02:15:15,969
completely consuming the media and so

2865
02:15:19,229 --> 02:15:17,889
whatever we put out there is going to

2866
02:15:22,890 --> 02:15:19,239
get some attention but it's not going to

2867
02:15:26,489 --> 02:15:22,900
stick fair enough so they launched on

2868
02:15:30,299 --> 02:15:26,499
October 11 question is why and the only

2869
02:15:33,569 --> 02:15:30,309
the best answer I have and I'll add here

2870
02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:33,579
that it might assessment of this which

2871
02:15:39,120 --> 02:15:35,920
is essentially a professional

2872
02:15:41,759 --> 02:15:39,130
guesstimate it could be wrong and and if

2873
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:41,769
in fact it wasn't like this any any one

2874
02:15:45,209 --> 02:15:43,209
of the student stars Academy are welcome

2875
02:15:46,890 --> 02:15:45,219
to get in touch with me and say no and

2876
02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:46,900
Steve it wasn't like this here's the way

2877
02:15:53,129 --> 02:15:49,570
it was and that would be great and I'm

2878
02:15:54,899 --> 02:15:53,139
happy to correct my assessment but right

2879
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:54,909
now I'm pretty comfortable with it why

2880
02:15:58,259 --> 02:15:56,530
did they go ahead and launch even though

2881
02:16:03,810 --> 02:15:58,269
the hurricane was up to a category three

2882
02:16:06,390 --> 02:16:03,820
by last October pootin the wild-card if

2883
02:16:10,140 --> 02:16:06,400
the if the if the if a disclosure

2884
02:16:12,899 --> 02:16:10,150
announcement coming out of Clinton early

2885
02:16:14,189 --> 02:16:12,909
in her administration without them being

2886
02:16:16,609 --> 02:16:14,199
out in front of the issue was going to

2887
02:16:20,009 --> 02:16:16,619
be a serious PR problem for them

2888
02:16:21,330 --> 02:16:20,019
Vladimir Putin announcing the et

2889
02:16:24,029 --> 02:16:21,340
presence which he could do anytime he

2890
02:16:26,009 --> 02:16:24,039
wants before they got out ahead of the

2891
02:16:29,189 --> 02:16:26,019
issue would be a catastrophe for them

2892
02:16:32,340 --> 02:16:29,199
and as it happens I've been pushing

2893
02:16:36,090 --> 02:16:32,350
Putin as a as a key

2894
02:16:38,190 --> 02:16:36,100
but mostly Putin of late as a didn't

2895
02:16:41,161 --> 02:16:38,200
perhaps the the the number one candidate

2896
02:16:43,081 --> 02:16:41,171
for the disclosure presidency for some

2897
02:16:45,420 --> 02:16:43,091
time doing it primarily to put pressure

2898
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:45,430
on a Pentagon in the White House it's

2899
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:48,610
not that I'm I'm lobbying for Putin to

2900
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:50,650
be the disclosure president I'm saying

2901
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:52,810
guys you understand then unless he's on

2902
02:16:55,770 --> 02:16:54,370
your payroll he can do it anytime he

2903
02:16:56,491 --> 02:16:55,780
wants in which case you've got a real

2904
02:16:59,071 --> 02:16:56,501
problem

2905
02:17:00,690 --> 02:16:59,081
ah this is my way of putting pressure on

2906
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:00,700
this but you do that's what activists do

2907
02:17:04,860 --> 02:17:02,110
you find ways to put pressure on the

2908
02:17:07,800 --> 02:17:04,870
government to get them to do what they

2909
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:07,810
don't want to do and it got more

2910
02:17:11,041 --> 02:17:09,730
interesting because when I I left the

2911
02:17:12,541 --> 02:17:11,051
country after the election because I

2912
02:17:16,310 --> 02:17:12,551
little bummed out and went to London and

2913
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:16,320
right away I was invited by a national

2914
02:17:20,970 --> 02:17:19,690
Russian Network to come and to do an

2915
02:17:22,650 --> 02:17:20,980
interview with them in London and I said

2916
02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:22,660
no I'll do it in Moscow they supply you

2917
02:17:27,630 --> 02:17:25,180
got to pay your own way I did and I gave

2918
02:17:31,380 --> 02:17:27,640
the interview to a Russian television

2919
02:17:33,541 --> 02:17:31,390
network crew on May the 3rd and I know I

2920
02:17:36,600 --> 02:17:33,551
had a plan the interview was heavily

2921
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:36,610
Paulet political exopolitical including

2922
02:17:39,930 --> 02:17:37,930
talking about Putin as the Disclosure

2923
02:17:42,420 --> 02:17:39,940
president which no one had ever done in

2924
02:17:44,610 --> 02:17:42,430
Russian media before and no one had ever

2925
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:44,620
certainly done it on Russian soil I also

2926
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:46,930
arranged for six meetings I have

2927
02:17:51,510 --> 02:17:49,120
supporter who had a lot of contacts in

2928
02:17:53,190 --> 02:17:51,520
Moscow he's out of Italy and he arranged

2929
02:17:54,810 --> 02:17:53,200
six meetings for me with about three to

2930
02:18:00,750 --> 02:17:54,820
four people each meeting so the total of

2931
02:18:02,581 --> 02:18:00,760
about maybe 20 20 20 people and most of

2932
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:02,591
these people were former Russian and

2933
02:18:09,031 --> 02:18:06,690
Soviet either military or political z'

2934
02:18:10,350 --> 02:18:09,041
who had been engaging the issue while

2935
02:18:11,940 --> 02:18:10,360
they were in government and now they're

2936
02:18:14,550 --> 02:18:11,950
out of government and still engaging the

2937
02:18:16,140 --> 02:18:14,560
issue we couldn't really have much of an

2938
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:16,150
in-depth conversation because I've got

2939
02:18:19,470 --> 02:18:17,410
three Russians in front of me and I've

2940
02:18:22,621 --> 02:18:19,480
got a modest better-than-average

2941
02:18:24,060 --> 02:18:22,631
interpreter or we kept of the

2942
02:18:25,741 --> 02:18:24,070
discussions going to be it was more like

2943
02:18:27,150 --> 02:18:25,751
how you doing how's everything going I'm

2944
02:18:29,880 --> 02:18:27,160
into this what are you into blah blah

2945
02:18:32,340 --> 02:18:29,890
that's it that's but that the reason I

2946
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:32,350
did I know that if I took those meetings

2947
02:18:36,331 --> 02:18:35,200
there was no way that Vladimir Putin in

2948
02:18:38,130 --> 02:18:36,341
the Kremlin wasn't going to know I was

2949
02:18:40,110 --> 02:18:38,140
in town no they knew and ultimately

2950
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:40,120
figure figure out why I knew the CIA

2951
02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:42,010
would have known for her and so I'm

2952
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:43,690
thinking okay what's going to happen it

2953
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:45,490
was a test it was my way of

2954
02:18:50,850 --> 02:18:48,610
being prudent on this because if Putin

2955
02:18:52,950 --> 02:18:50,860
didn't want to be connected to the idea

2956
02:18:54,180 --> 02:18:52,960
of him being disclosure president that

2957
02:18:54,900 --> 02:18:54,190
interview is never going to see the

2958
02:18:56,850 --> 02:18:54,910
light of day

2959
02:18:58,350 --> 02:18:56,860
none of it would be used in any of the

2960
02:19:00,780 --> 02:18:58,360
network's programming and I would never

2961
02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:00,790
get the english-language version of it

2962
02:19:04,710 --> 02:19:02,890
which was it the studio quality but it

2963
02:19:07,260 --> 02:19:04,720
was it was a second version done by the

2964
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:07,270
journalist I might even get out of the

2965
02:19:11,340 --> 02:19:10,090
country but what happened was I did get

2966
02:19:13,500 --> 02:19:11,350
out of the country five months later

2967
02:19:15,780 --> 02:19:13,510
they did use a little bit of the

2968
02:19:19,910 --> 02:19:15,790
interview in one of their shows and then

2969
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:19,920
Pravda are you ran two articles about my

2970
02:19:25,590 --> 02:19:22,450
calling for Putin to be the disclosure

2971
02:19:27,810 --> 02:19:25,600
president which I'm not going to do with

2972
02:19:29,490 --> 02:19:27,820
Putin doesn't want it and then I got the

2973
02:19:30,930 --> 02:19:29,500
english-language version I put that out

2974
02:19:33,300 --> 02:19:30,940
eventually at a press release with the

2975
02:19:34,470 --> 02:19:33,310
key key components and the American

2976
02:19:36,900 --> 02:19:34,480
press completely ignored it

2977
02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:36,910
English pre English press set my website

2978
02:19:42,660 --> 02:19:40,410
and so what I was able to do was confirm

2979
02:19:45,450 --> 02:19:42,670
that obviously Putin was not

2980
02:19:47,010 --> 02:19:45,460
uncomfortable with an American activist

2981
02:19:49,020 --> 02:19:47,020
connecting him to the possibility of

2982
02:19:51,030 --> 02:19:49,030
being a disclosure president not just in

2983
02:19:55,530 --> 02:19:51,040
American media but in Russian media in

2984
02:19:57,631 --> 02:19:55,540
Moscow well guess what the CIA and an M

2985
02:20:01,711 --> 02:19:57,641
I see people obviously we're watching

2986
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:01,721
this right from the beginning May June

2987
02:20:08,341 --> 02:20:06,010
July August September 2017 and they're

2988
02:20:09,301 --> 02:20:08,351
thinking you know this guy this bassett

2989
02:20:11,671 --> 02:20:09,311
guy he's crazy

2990
02:20:13,740 --> 02:20:11,681
he's an obsessive-compulsive clearly he

2991
02:20:17,970 --> 02:20:13,750
won't give up he's just not going to

2992
02:20:20,070 --> 02:20:17,980
stop my god he might just incite Putin

2993
02:20:22,711 --> 02:20:20,080
to disclose this would be a catastrophe

2994
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:22,721
and so I believe they chose to go ahead

2995
02:20:28,410 --> 02:20:25,210
and launch on October the 11th into the

2996
02:20:30,900 --> 02:20:28,420
hurricane because Putin was not they

2997
02:20:33,030 --> 02:20:30,910
don't control him I mean every

2998
02:20:35,070 --> 02:20:33,040
indication is Putin is doing what he

2999
02:20:37,140 --> 02:20:35,080
wants to disrupt American democracy

3000
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:37,150
American international relations he's

3001
02:20:40,171 --> 02:20:38,650
eating our lunch he's playing

3002
02:20:42,171 --> 02:20:40,181
three-dimensional chess and we're

3003
02:20:44,551 --> 02:20:42,181
playing hooks and ladders and so

3004
02:20:47,160 --> 02:20:44,561
disclosing the et presence would be

3005
02:20:49,470 --> 02:20:47,170
incredibly disruptive and undermining

3006
02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:49,480
our position and embarrassing the hell

3007
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:50,710
out on military intelligence complex

3008
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:52,960
although we now answer to the Stars

3009
02:20:57,330 --> 02:20:54,610
Academy people don't agree I'd love to

3010
02:20:59,370 --> 02:20:57,340
hear their opinion I think that's why

3011
02:21:04,260 --> 02:20:59,380
they launched and so

3012
02:21:06,060 --> 02:21:04,270
are we now okay they launched it they

3013
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:06,070
made their first major move when they

3014
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:08,410
held selective interviews with the New

3015
02:21:13,070 --> 02:21:10,240
York Times to give them a lot of

3016
02:21:15,420 --> 02:21:13,080
information which The Times vetted and

3017
02:21:16,770 --> 02:21:15,430
decided it was legitimate and wrote the

3018
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:16,780
stories I mean they did they're not in

3019
02:21:20,340 --> 02:21:18,130
cahoots with the New York Times but

3020
02:21:22,770 --> 02:21:20,350
obviously they wanted those stories in

3021
02:21:25,679 --> 02:21:22,780
The Times they they handed over three

3022
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:25,689
gun camera footages of three separate

3023
02:21:31,080 --> 02:21:27,250
events first time that's ever happened

3024
02:21:32,790 --> 02:21:31,090
from any nation ever there was a little

3025
02:21:34,530 --> 02:21:32,800
gun camera footage release I think into

3026
02:21:36,570 --> 02:21:34,540
a documentary by somebody at general

3027
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:36,580
Delaware doing it's nobody even knows

3028
02:21:39,540 --> 02:21:38,290
where it is now it's hard to find but in

3029
02:21:41,490 --> 02:21:39,550
terms of official releases never

3030
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:41,500
happened because the releasing gun

3031
02:21:46,050 --> 02:21:43,810
camera footage of i-80 s being

3032
02:21:47,730 --> 02:21:46,060
intercepted by high-end military judge

3033
02:21:49,950 --> 02:21:47,740
you put out 20 of those the truth

3034
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:49,960
embargo blow sky-high and so that stuff

3035
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:51,130
was not available you couldn't get it

3036
02:21:54,570 --> 02:21:52,930
under foi a you couldn't get it period

3037
02:21:55,889 --> 02:21:54,580
and if anybody had tried to leak it out

3038
02:22:00,120 --> 02:21:55,899
they'd gone to prison

3039
02:22:02,520 --> 02:22:00,130
well the appropriate people inside the

3040
02:22:04,380 --> 02:22:02,530
Department of Defense they would despite

3041
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:04,390
what their public relations person says

3042
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:05,530
in the front office

3043
02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:09,490
he classified those films they redacted

3044
02:22:11,700 --> 02:22:10,090
a lot of it

3045
02:22:12,870 --> 02:22:11,710
they gave it you know short amounts

3046
02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:12,880
there's much more to him than just what

3047
02:22:17,370 --> 02:22:15,370
we saw and gave them to Lewis Elizondo

3048
02:22:19,860 --> 02:22:17,380
to present to the New York Times and

3049
02:22:21,540 --> 02:22:19,870
those articles and were written huge

3050
02:22:23,670 --> 02:22:21,550
number of articles I've got a couple

3051
02:22:25,620 --> 02:22:23,680
hundred articles related to that on my

3052
02:22:27,780 --> 02:22:25,630
mind on my archive my print archive

3053
02:22:29,700 --> 02:22:27,790
which has nearly ten over ten thousand

3054
02:22:31,320 --> 02:22:29,710
articles linked and you can go read them

3055
02:22:34,350 --> 02:22:31,330
all if you want to it paradigm Research

3056
02:22:36,210 --> 02:22:34,360
Group torgue so they did that but then

3057
02:22:37,950 --> 02:22:36,220
they haven't done anything since so you

3058
02:22:40,170 --> 02:22:37,960
got January February March April May

3059
02:22:41,250 --> 02:22:40,180
June yes that's because they're

3060
02:22:44,340 --> 02:22:41,260
slow-walking it

3061
02:22:47,250 --> 02:22:44,350
it's not even momentum obviously is

3062
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:47,260
being reduced by that but the reason

3063
02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:49,120
they're slow-walking it is because the

3064
02:22:54,270 --> 02:22:50,890
political hurricane is only getting

3065
02:22:55,850 --> 02:22:54,280
worse and worse there are major reports

3066
02:22:59,160 --> 02:22:55,860
that are going to drop out of the

3067
02:23:01,230 --> 02:22:59,170
federal prosecutor Mahler there's going

3068
02:23:03,090 --> 02:23:01,240
to be more indictments more chaos God

3069
02:23:05,790 --> 02:23:03,100
knows what's going to happen and they

3070
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:05,800
realize that if they if they come out

3071
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:07,600
with another big thing it's just going

3072
02:23:11,969 --> 02:23:10,210
to be blown away by the hurricane yeah

3073
02:23:12,650 --> 02:23:11,979
it'll get some attention but the media

3074
02:23:15,261 --> 02:23:12,660
can't stay

3075
02:23:17,450 --> 02:23:15,271
with it the New York Times in any normal

3076
02:23:19,820 --> 02:23:17,460
times would have been all over that

3077
02:23:21,980 --> 02:23:19,830
issue once they did those first articles

3078
02:23:24,261 --> 02:23:21,990
they should have had four reporters

3079
02:23:26,841 --> 02:23:24,271
sitting right in front of Robert Bigelow

3080
02:23:29,390 --> 02:23:26,851
right away saying Bob we'd like to see

3081
02:23:31,460 --> 02:23:29,400
those metamaterials dude and we'd like

3082
02:23:32,511 --> 02:23:31,470
to know a lot more and and and how is it

3083
02:23:34,011 --> 02:23:32,521
that you actually said there's

3084
02:23:36,740 --> 02:23:34,021
extraterrestrials here on 60 minutes

3085
02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:36,750
they didn't do that and obviously that

3086
02:23:39,980 --> 02:23:38,610
the Congress can't do a damn thing it's

3087
02:23:43,460 --> 02:23:39,990
mostly involved in a kind of

3088
02:23:44,990 --> 02:23:43,470
self-destructive process here where

3089
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:45,000
everybody's going to pretty much explode

3090
02:23:48,710 --> 02:23:47,370
they should have held hearings they

3091
02:23:50,210 --> 02:23:48,720
should a halt Bigelow in front of a

3092
02:23:52,370 --> 02:23:50,220
committee within days they didn't do it

3093
02:23:55,730 --> 02:23:52,380
that's because we're in extraordinary

3094
02:23:59,180 --> 02:23:55,740
times so they're slow walking it in

3095
02:24:00,920 --> 02:23:59,190
order to hopefully that things will

3096
02:24:03,230 --> 02:24:00,930
resolve themselves in other words

3097
02:24:06,500 --> 02:24:03,240
they're hoping that the political chaos

3098
02:24:08,631 --> 02:24:06,510
will resolve and the moment that happens

3099
02:24:12,530 --> 02:24:08,641
you can expect them to pick up speed

3100
02:24:15,290 --> 02:24:12,540
very quickly but will it resolve when it

3101
02:24:17,150 --> 02:24:15,300
resolved how much I don't know so I'm

3102
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:17,160
still quite optimistic and they're still

3103
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:19,530
around I'm watching to see if the

3104
02:24:24,261 --> 02:24:22,110
Pentagon suddenly reaches out like a you

3105
02:24:26,091 --> 02:24:24,271
know one of those one filled animals and

3106
02:24:28,250 --> 02:24:26,101
just grabs them and pulls them back in

3107
02:24:29,960 --> 02:24:28,260
like they did with chase Brandon who

3108
02:24:31,460 --> 02:24:29,970
came out with that book about Roswell in

3109
02:24:33,710 --> 02:24:31,470
some extraordinary statements and then

3110
02:24:35,810 --> 02:24:33,720
disappeared right later found us because

3111
02:24:38,140 --> 02:24:35,820
that CIA basically said chase you got

3112
02:24:41,051 --> 02:24:38,150
out ahead of your skis dude that's it

3113
02:24:43,250 --> 02:24:41,061
cut it out right now that was years ago

3114
02:24:44,841 --> 02:24:43,260
what happened you know but I don't think

3115
02:24:46,790 --> 02:24:44,851
so there's too many people involved what

3116
02:24:49,220 --> 02:24:46,800
yeah I want to go back to the Bigelow

3117
02:24:54,650 --> 02:24:49,230
aspect of this too as well and what's

3118
02:24:57,680 --> 02:24:54,660
your opinion I I said this if I was

3119
02:25:02,540 --> 02:24:57,690
Bigelow and hear me out on the Steve if

3120
02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:02,550
I was Bigelow I would go ahead and go

3121
02:25:08,150 --> 02:25:06,090
the martyr route I would pull whatever

3122
02:25:11,540 --> 02:25:08,160
it is that you have have a press

3123
02:25:14,030 --> 02:25:11,550
conference present this meta material

3124
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:14,040
whatever it is whatever label they want

3125
02:25:20,480 --> 02:25:16,530
to put on a state where it came from

3126
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:20,490
crashed debride trace evidence wherever

3127
02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:22,050
it came from came from the penny of it

3128
02:25:26,060 --> 02:25:24,210
came from Seville whatever it is have a

3129
02:25:29,480 --> 02:25:26,070
press conference and

3130
02:25:32,541 --> 02:25:29,490
fall on your own sword because in a

3131
02:25:36,890 --> 02:25:32,551
thousand years there will be a religion

3132
02:25:38,810 --> 02:25:36,900
called Bigelow right you would have my

3133
02:25:41,211 --> 02:25:38,820
Jimmy you got you've got an imagination

3134
02:25:44,001 --> 02:25:41,221
you know yeah well you understand where

3135
02:25:46,430 --> 02:25:44,011
I'm going with it you know yeah but yeah

3136
02:25:47,450 --> 02:25:46,440
look Bigelow doesn't have to do that and

3137
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:47,460
he's not gonna do that

3138
02:25:51,470 --> 02:25:49,530
I would he wouldn't you drinking out a

3139
02:25:53,180 --> 02:25:51,480
bunch of no no I wouldn't be bringing

3140
02:25:54,530 --> 02:25:53,190
out some metamaterials it's not going to

3141
02:25:55,671 --> 02:25:54,540
wrap the thing up it's not going to

3142
02:25:58,280 --> 02:25:55,681
necessary force disclosure

3143
02:26:00,950 --> 02:25:58,290
you could spend 10 15 years studying

3144
02:26:02,330 --> 02:26:00,960
metamaterials right before you could

3145
02:26:03,650 --> 02:26:02,340
arrive at some fundamental conclusion

3146
02:26:05,180 --> 02:26:03,660
well this confirms there's

3147
02:26:07,341 --> 02:26:05,190
extraterrestrials here we already know

3148
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:07,351
there's extraterrestrials here the issue

3149
02:26:12,830 --> 02:26:09,690
isn't him coming out with something that

3150
02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:12,840
really shows it to be true we've already

3151
02:26:18,620 --> 02:26:14,250
got stuff in the public domain more

3152
02:26:20,240 --> 02:26:18,630
powerful than that the issue is the

3153
02:26:23,270 --> 02:26:20,250
government being and put in a position

3154
02:26:25,011 --> 02:26:23,280
where it has to just come out and say it

3155
02:26:27,110 --> 02:26:25,021
all right so in rather studying

3156
02:26:29,270 --> 02:26:27,120
Bigelow's metamaterials for years the

3157
02:26:32,570 --> 02:26:29,280
president can end it in in a half a day

3158
02:26:34,671 --> 02:26:32,580
or a few minutes so and he's got a what

3159
02:26:36,890 --> 02:26:34,681
he's got a contract with NASA he's got

3160
02:26:38,390 --> 02:26:36,900
an important research he's doing he's

3161
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:38,400
already made a public statement he said

3162
02:26:44,360 --> 02:26:42,080
they're here I need a martyr himself

3163
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:44,370
because it wouldn't make any wooden

3164
02:26:47,421 --> 02:26:45,210
property wouldn't make any difference

3165
02:26:48,890 --> 02:26:47,431
he's the wrong guy to martyr himself if

3166
02:26:50,360 --> 02:26:48,900
somebody's going to martyr themselves it

3167
02:26:52,791 --> 02:26:50,370
might be like the Secretary of Defense

3168
02:26:55,791 --> 02:26:52,801
who for whatever reason says screw this

3169
02:26:58,100 --> 02:26:55,801
goes down gets a bunch of files really

3170
02:27:00,410 --> 02:26:58,110
heavy-duty stuff and holds a press

3171
02:27:02,450 --> 02:27:00,420
conference that would back that might

3172
02:27:05,150 --> 02:27:02,460
very much trigger disclosure but don't

3173
02:27:07,131 --> 02:27:05,160
expect that either the military

3174
02:27:09,860 --> 02:27:07,141
intelligence complex is designed to

3175
02:27:11,450 --> 02:27:09,870
protect the national security and doing

3176
02:27:13,580 --> 02:27:11,460
things in a way that are not destructive

3177
02:27:14,930 --> 02:27:13,590
I think is pretty much a mandate for

3178
02:27:15,740 --> 02:27:14,940
them and so what they're doing is

3179
02:27:17,990 --> 02:27:15,750
slow-walking

3180
02:27:20,390 --> 02:27:18,000
a process but what's important though

3181
02:27:22,910 --> 02:27:20,400
and what here's the distinction as I've

3182
02:27:26,001 --> 02:27:22,920
said in all my presentations right now I

3183
02:27:28,011 --> 02:27:26,011
can say comfortably that the quote

3184
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:28,021
military intelligence complex which

3185
02:27:31,940 --> 02:27:29,370
includes the people that are part of the

3186
02:27:34,310 --> 02:27:31,950
two stars team and the 30 or so people

3187
02:27:37,461 --> 02:27:34,320
behind them inside to who cannot be

3188
02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:37,471
named or leading the disclosure advocacy

3189
02:27:42,500 --> 02:27:40,410
movement and that is a seat

3190
02:27:43,820 --> 02:27:42,510
over everything that's happened in the

3191
02:27:46,370 --> 02:27:43,830
last 70 years there have been a couple

3192
02:27:48,650 --> 02:27:46,380
of pre-emptive efforts there's always

3193
02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:48,660
been internal pressure to maybe do

3194
02:27:53,150 --> 02:27:52,170
something and maneger story is one of

3195
02:27:55,100 --> 02:27:53,160
those and there's been a couple of

3196
02:27:56,690 --> 02:27:55,110
others where some people thought maybe

3197
02:27:58,010 --> 02:27:56,700
they could maneuver it out a little bit

3198
02:27:59,510 --> 02:27:58,020
and help the process along but they all

3199
02:28:00,650 --> 02:27:59,520
got pulled back in mm-hmm

3200
02:28:02,750 --> 02:28:00,660
because it was the biggest most

3201
02:28:05,300 --> 02:28:02,760
classified thing in the United States so

3202
02:28:07,430 --> 02:28:05,310
but this is way past that this is far

3203
02:28:11,450 --> 02:28:07,440
more extensive than anything before and

3204
02:28:13,880 --> 02:28:11,460
it's happening at a time again when when

3205
02:28:15,980 --> 02:28:13,890
Tom DeLonge gives his interview to

3206
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:15,990
George Knapp and says hey I've been

3207
02:28:20,120 --> 02:28:17,010
meeting with these people in the

3208
02:28:22,070 --> 02:28:20,130
Pentagon the CIA NASA skunk works we got

3209
02:28:23,630 --> 02:28:22,080
a big project coming they're gonna start

3210
02:28:25,550 --> 02:28:23,640
getting information out I'm gonna we're

3211
02:28:29,480 --> 02:28:25,560
gonna do multimedia blah blah blah and

3212
02:28:31,700 --> 02:28:29,490
he and then we learned that he is he has

3213
02:28:33,410 --> 02:28:31,710
already approached the the Clinton team

3214
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:33,420
particularly Podesta for their

3215
02:28:38,990 --> 02:28:35,250
involvement that is where these two

3216
02:28:42,760 --> 02:28:39,000
political threads connected that's where

3217
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:42,770
they connected and set the stage for

3218
02:28:46,870 --> 02:28:44,880
essentially a major announcement from

3219
02:28:49,850 --> 02:28:46,880
them and then disclosure from Clinton

3220
02:28:52,190 --> 02:28:49,860
the Democrats when Clinton wins the CIA

3221
02:28:54,140 --> 02:28:52,200
the military intelligence complex gets

3222
02:28:56,420 --> 02:28:54,150
up gets a lot of good PR that will help

3223
02:28:58,040 --> 02:28:56,430
them in the post disclosure world the

3224
02:28:59,240 --> 02:28:58,050
Republic is loose because they lose the

3225
02:29:02,780 --> 02:28:59,250
election and they've never done anything

3226
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:02,790
on this issue because they're much more

3227
02:29:09,380 --> 02:29:06,570
attuned to the wishes and desires of

3228
02:29:12,500 --> 02:29:09,390
military intelligence accomplished so it

3229
02:29:14,120 --> 02:29:12,510
didn't happen it blew up but as I said

3230
02:29:16,219 --> 02:29:14,130
the toothpaste was out of the tube they

3231
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:16,229
couldn't put it back and they've got the

3232
02:29:22,430 --> 02:29:19,680
wild card Putin out there so they've

3233
02:29:24,260 --> 02:29:22,440
decided it so they have essentially come

3234
02:29:26,810 --> 02:29:24,270
out so the pill the military

3235
02:29:28,610 --> 02:29:26,820
intelligence complex I'm by a virtue of

3236
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:28,620
what is happening with the to the Stars

3237
02:29:32,360 --> 02:29:30,930
Academy which is being backed up with

3238
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:32,370
some kind of authorization and

3239
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:34,050
involvement with people inside the

3240
02:29:38,510 --> 02:29:36,450
Pentagon and CIA it's already

3241
02:29:40,670 --> 02:29:38,520
established a strong public relations

3242
02:29:42,770 --> 02:29:40,680
position here people are not going to

3243
02:29:44,990 --> 02:29:42,780
forget this and as and if they play a

3244
02:29:47,719 --> 02:29:45,000
key role in ultimately bringing about

3245
02:29:48,620 --> 02:29:47,729
disclosure their post disclosure public

3246
02:29:50,840 --> 02:29:48,630
relations problems are going to be

3247
02:29:52,280 --> 02:29:50,850
significantly less there's going to be a

3248
02:29:53,310 --> 02:29:52,290
lot of heroes a lot of people are going

3249
02:29:58,680 --> 02:29:53,320
to praise them

3250
02:30:00,660 --> 02:29:58,690
so this is kind of one track I again

3251
02:30:03,300 --> 02:30:00,670
depending upon how bad the political

3252
02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:03,310
chaos gets if things settle down

3253
02:30:10,290 --> 02:30:08,290
2019 looks very very attractive and and

3254
02:30:15,090 --> 02:30:10,300
I feel like it could happen next year

3255
02:30:17,340 --> 02:30:15,100
and again as I said I confirmed to my

3256
02:30:20,850 --> 02:30:17,350
satisfaction did Putin doesn't have any

3257
02:30:23,300 --> 02:30:20,860
problem with this and as as the finish

3258
02:30:26,790 --> 02:30:23,310
line for the US gets closer and closer

3259
02:30:28,620 --> 02:30:26,800
as someone like Putin proceeds that the

3260
02:30:30,390 --> 02:30:28,630
u.s. is getting close to maybe

3261
02:30:33,810 --> 02:30:30,400
disclosure happening under a US

3262
02:30:37,500 --> 02:30:33,820
president he could step in in 24 hours

3263
02:30:41,820 --> 02:30:37,510
and preempt the u.s. s prerogative there

3264
02:30:43,380 --> 02:30:41,830
he can act very quickly and so all I

3265
02:30:45,390 --> 02:30:43,390
could say is that the more progress we

3266
02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:45,400
make the more tempting it is for him and

3267
02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:47,170
maybe me a couple other leaders that are

3268
02:30:52,470 --> 02:30:50,170
in same frame of mind so the situation

3269
02:30:55,470 --> 02:30:52,480
for disclosure is extremely tenuous what

3270
02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,480
what what really remains to be seen is

3271
02:30:59,340 --> 02:30:57,280
which nation is going to go first at

3272
02:31:02,610 --> 02:30:59,350
this point in my mind it's up to which

3273
02:31:05,850 --> 02:31:02,620
nation is going to go first I thought I

3274
02:31:09,690 --> 02:31:05,860
thought something for me which was much

3275
02:31:13,050 --> 02:31:09,700
more definitive and interesting wasn't

3276
02:31:15,660 --> 02:31:13,060
those three videos those three videos

3277
02:31:17,430 --> 02:31:15,670
I've you know and and it's Providence

3278
02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:17,440
and all of that we can push that to the

3279
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:19,930
side but there were two other things

3280
02:31:23,761 --> 02:31:22,090
that happened which I thought weren't

3281
02:31:27,150 --> 02:31:23,771
much more extraordinary and those were

3282
02:31:30,090 --> 02:31:27,160
those two FAA tapes that were released

3283
02:31:33,420 --> 02:31:30,100
the one that was off of the coast of was

3284
02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:33,430
up in Oregon with the f-18s and the one

3285
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:36,250
that was down between Tucson and

3286
02:31:41,420 --> 02:31:40,240
Albuquerque and those those came from

3287
02:31:44,130 --> 02:31:41,430
the FAA

3288
02:31:48,990 --> 02:31:44,140
those are wait wait a minute what what

3289
02:31:52,620 --> 02:31:49,000
FAA tapes you talking to two events that

3290
02:31:54,300 --> 02:31:52,630
happened but one was about three months

3291
02:31:57,150 --> 02:31:54,310
ago four months ago and another one

3292
02:32:02,011 --> 02:31:57,160
about two months ago the first one was

3293
02:32:05,030 --> 02:32:02,021
up in Oregon near Portland with the

3294
02:32:08,660 --> 02:32:05,040
fa-18 and their sightings and

3295
02:32:10,970 --> 02:32:08,670
their communications about and the tapes

3296
02:32:15,170 --> 02:32:10,980
are extraordinary to listen to I mean

3297
02:32:18,050 --> 02:32:15,180
that is a UFO sighting by f-18 Hornets

3298
02:32:23,410 --> 02:32:18,060
and then the yeah and the other one that

3299
02:32:27,130 --> 02:32:23,420
was between Tucson and of all places

3300
02:32:29,511 --> 02:32:27,140
Albuquerque New Mexico and that was it

3301
02:32:31,880 --> 02:32:29,521
but those were like yeah they're Jimmy

3302
02:32:33,380 --> 02:32:31,890
let's be clear Jimmy what what the to

3303
02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:33,390
the stars is doing is loosening the

3304
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:35,130
wrappings on the package all the

3305
02:32:40,070 --> 02:32:38,160
packages making it more likely that

3306
02:32:41,900 --> 02:32:40,080
stuff is going to be reported more

3307
02:32:43,310 --> 02:32:41,910
likely things are going to happen more

3308
02:32:45,860 --> 02:32:43,320
likely some people may come forward

3309
02:32:47,690 --> 02:32:45,870
because that's also a factor well I mean

3310
02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:47,700
by the way something something I didn't

3311
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:51,570
mention sure even though they did not

3312
02:32:58,610 --> 02:32:55,290
launch until October of 2017

3313
02:33:00,620 --> 02:32:58,620
it's very notable that it was just the

3314
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:00,630
day before the inauguration of the new

3315
02:33:05,780 --> 02:33:03,690
president when the CIA decided well this

3316
02:33:07,310 --> 02:33:05,790
is a good time to release to the public

3317
02:33:10,160 --> 02:33:07,320
domain' really into the public domain

3318
02:33:11,630 --> 02:33:10,170
the 13 million CIA files previously

3319
02:33:13,460 --> 02:33:11,640
Declassified including a bunch of stuff

3320
02:33:15,710 --> 02:33:13,470
about EP UFO stuff and remote viewing

3321
02:33:18,261 --> 02:33:15,720
which you could access if you went to

3322
02:33:19,580 --> 02:33:18,271
the archives who can do that and they

3323
02:33:20,960 --> 02:33:19,590
put it out in the net you can easily

3324
02:33:24,410 --> 02:33:20,970
find those articles this happened on

3325
02:33:28,370 --> 02:33:24,420
January the 19th mm-hmm and 13 million

3326
02:33:31,011 --> 02:33:28,380
documents why did the CIA do that but

3327
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:31,021
why why do it then at all and why time

3328
02:33:37,910 --> 02:33:34,110
it to the inauguration again this was a

3329
02:33:39,740 --> 02:33:37,920
simple way for the CIA which member has

3330
02:33:42,830 --> 02:33:39,750
three people on the to the stars Academy

3331
02:33:45,380 --> 02:33:42,840
team to become part of the solution to

3332
02:33:47,660 --> 02:33:45,390
show that there they're not just simply

3333
02:33:50,810 --> 02:33:47,670
sitting there on all their secrets and

3334
02:33:51,770 --> 02:33:50,820
not wanting to be helpful this is a safe

3335
02:33:53,000 --> 02:33:51,780
thing to do they were already

3336
02:33:54,620 --> 02:33:53,010
Declassified they just made them

3337
02:33:57,230 --> 02:33:54,630
available to every person on the

3338
02:33:59,210 --> 02:33:57,240
Internet three billion people so that's

3339
02:34:01,700 --> 02:33:59,220
another example of the military

3340
02:34:03,140 --> 02:34:01,710
intelligence complex knowing the public

3341
02:34:06,050 --> 02:34:03,150
relations problems they're going to face

3342
02:34:08,810 --> 02:34:06,060
on disclosure getting out ahead of the

3343
02:34:10,100 --> 02:34:08,820
issue so they can get a little of the

3344
02:34:11,030 --> 02:34:10,110
you know get a little bit love

3345
02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:11,040
afterwards

3346
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:13,170
and be able to say look we do we were

3347
02:34:16,520 --> 02:34:14,610
doing what we could do we did our best

3348
02:34:18,501 --> 02:34:16,530
and people are going to go great you

3349
02:34:21,261 --> 02:34:18,511
know you really did thank you so much

3350
02:34:23,060 --> 02:34:21,271
this is a serious thing you got you got

3351
02:34:25,341 --> 02:34:23,070
these national security people there

3352
02:34:28,041 --> 02:34:25,351
thousands of them that have been sitting

3353
02:34:30,051 --> 02:34:28,051
on this issue either directly or

3354
02:34:33,051 --> 02:34:30,061
indirectly by just not not talking about

3355
02:34:34,911 --> 02:34:33,061
it for 70 years now loud we're already

3356
02:34:38,211 --> 02:34:34,921
dead but there's plenty of people still

3357
02:34:40,251 --> 02:34:38,221
alive and they know that it's a huge

3358
02:34:41,661 --> 02:34:40,261
problem for them they know that there's

3359
02:34:43,191 --> 02:34:41,671
a constitutional breach they know

3360
02:34:45,651 --> 02:34:43,201
there's other stuff that's been yanked

3361
02:34:47,180 --> 02:34:45,661
out from under proper oversight in the

3362
02:34:48,741 --> 02:34:47,190
White House and they're going to have to

3363
02:34:52,131 --> 02:34:48,751
answer for that too but none of them are

3364
02:34:54,831 --> 02:34:52,141
as big as this and so I don't blame them

3365
02:34:58,251 --> 02:34:54,841
for trying to do what they can to

3366
02:35:00,020 --> 02:34:58,261
improve their public posture on this so

3367
02:35:02,781 --> 02:35:00,030
that they don't get completely thrown

3368
02:35:05,361 --> 02:35:02,791
under the bus when it comes down well

3369
02:35:11,991 --> 02:35:05,371
how do we know Steve but Steve how do we

3370
02:35:15,470 --> 02:35:12,001
um know how do we know and trust members

3371
02:35:18,761 --> 02:35:15,480
of the CIA X Corporation guys X company

3372
02:35:23,451 --> 02:35:18,771
guys where their job is is lies and

3373
02:35:26,571 --> 02:35:23,461
deception first off and second Elizondo

3374
02:35:31,301 --> 02:35:26,581
who is counterintelligence where that's

3375
02:35:35,331 --> 02:35:31,311
a that was his gig - why are we now

3376
02:35:37,551 --> 02:35:35,341
supposed to trust and and and believe

3377
02:35:40,060 --> 02:35:37,561
what is actually going on I mean with

3378
02:35:43,551 --> 02:35:40,070
the big picture be the opposite of that

3379
02:35:46,850 --> 02:35:43,561
well first of all the intelligence

3380
02:35:50,270 --> 02:35:46,860
services do a lot of manipulation and

3381
02:35:51,560 --> 02:35:50,280
lying from clandestine positions that's

3382
02:35:53,961 --> 02:35:51,570
their job and they feel like they're

3383
02:35:54,430 --> 02:35:53,971
defending the country these guys are the

3384
02:35:57,770 --> 02:35:54,440
best

3385
02:36:00,140 --> 02:35:57,780
they put out their resumes they they're

3386
02:36:02,091 --> 02:36:00,150
not hiding anything yeah I was I was I

3387
02:36:04,281 --> 02:36:02,101
was CI intelligence operations South

3388
02:36:06,231 --> 02:36:04,291
America I was this I was that

3389
02:36:07,701 --> 02:36:06,241
Christopher Mellon all over the in

3390
02:36:09,890 --> 02:36:07,711
political intelligence connections

3391
02:36:12,411 --> 02:36:09,900
between opinion of Congress and they

3392
02:36:16,161 --> 02:36:12,421
just sang him right so here we and here

3393
02:36:18,261 --> 02:36:16,171
we are in years so if they're not try to

3394
02:36:19,941 --> 02:36:18,271
hide anything they're not trying to say

3395
02:36:21,470 --> 02:36:19,951
that what they're not and then the other

3396
02:36:24,350 --> 02:36:21,480
thing is you do look at what they say I

3397
02:36:26,390 --> 02:36:24,360
mean we know a lot of stuff we're not

3398
02:36:29,331 --> 02:36:26,400
we're not completely ignorant here and

3399
02:36:31,071 --> 02:36:29,341
we're able to assess everything they're

3400
02:36:32,300 --> 02:36:31,081
saying and I have been reviewing at all

3401
02:36:34,429 --> 02:36:32,310
I've got 88

3402
02:36:37,219 --> 02:36:34,439
videos on my paradigm research group

3403
02:36:39,109 --> 02:36:37,229
website right now of news coverage

3404
02:36:41,449 --> 02:36:39,119
television news coverage as well as

3405
02:36:44,359 --> 02:36:41,459
scores of interviews with with one or

3406
02:36:48,079 --> 02:36:44,369
more of these people and when you review

3407
02:36:52,069 --> 02:36:48,089
it I do not see deception I do not see

3408
02:36:55,039 --> 02:36:52,079
manipulation and so they are going they

3409
02:37:00,769 --> 02:36:55,049
will eventually earn our trust by

3410
02:37:03,199 --> 02:37:00,779
putting out valid information and and we

3411
02:37:04,639 --> 02:37:03,209
will judge them by their actions so

3412
02:37:06,109 --> 02:37:04,649
we're off to a pretty good start now

3413
02:37:09,380 --> 02:37:06,119
again there's plenty of people attacking

3414
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:09,390
them but what else is new that was to be

3415
02:37:15,829 --> 02:37:13,680
expected my job is not to attack my job

3416
02:37:18,559 --> 02:37:15,839
is to assess right right I've assessed

3417
02:37:20,179 --> 02:37:18,569
the attacks I'm not not impressed I've

3418
02:37:21,739 --> 02:37:20,189
assessed what the team is doing

3419
02:37:23,750 --> 02:37:21,749
I'm very impressed and that's where I'm

3420
02:37:26,090 --> 02:37:23,760
at and I assure you that if I if I come

3421
02:37:27,829 --> 02:37:26,100
to a different opinion if I if I learn

3422
02:37:29,689 --> 02:37:27,839
things that makes me say oh my god this

3423
02:37:33,380 --> 02:37:29,699
is a maneuver this is a

3424
02:37:35,869 --> 02:37:33,390
misrepresentation I'm gonna tell you so

3425
02:37:37,460 --> 02:37:35,879
that's bet the best I can do I'm very

3426
02:37:39,019 --> 02:37:37,470
comfortable what they're doing I'm very

3427
02:37:41,979 --> 02:37:39,029
pleased with what they're doing I'm very

3428
02:37:44,779 --> 02:37:41,989
respectful of what they're doing and

3429
02:37:45,789 --> 02:37:44,789
welcomed along is the Pokes person seems

3430
02:37:48,319 --> 02:37:45,799
a little odd

3431
02:37:49,969 --> 02:37:48,329
it's not as odd as people think if they

3432
02:37:51,559 --> 02:37:49,979
knew the full story it's on too long I

3433
02:37:53,300 --> 02:37:51,569
think they might understand that this is

3434
02:37:56,210 --> 02:37:53,310
not that crazy

3435
02:38:00,260 --> 02:37:56,220
and the key spokesperson is Elizondo by

3436
02:38:02,479 --> 02:38:00,270
and large so we all can I say but wasn't

3437
02:38:04,159 --> 02:38:02,489
for the political hurricane underway I'd

3438
02:38:05,899 --> 02:38:04,169
be I'd be planning for the post

3439
02:38:07,880 --> 02:38:05,909
disclosure world to me I mean we're

3440
02:38:09,829 --> 02:38:07,890
gonna party right yeah you and in cases

3441
02:38:12,229 --> 02:38:09,839
of champagne you and I are gonna light

3442
02:38:17,179 --> 02:38:12,239
those fires I I'm with you on that did

3443
02:38:21,500 --> 02:38:17,189
see there it's DeLong is a bit of an

3444
02:38:24,679 --> 02:38:21,510
enigma I'll say this I've gone back and

3445
02:38:27,050 --> 02:38:24,689
listened to the three hours that I did

3446
02:38:30,019 --> 02:38:27,060
with him right on fade to black and I've

3447
02:38:33,260 --> 02:38:30,029
gone back my original after the show was

3448
02:38:35,029 --> 02:38:33,270
done it was like oh that was fun but you

3449
02:38:38,840 --> 02:38:35,039
know wasn't that I went back and

3450
02:38:40,610 --> 02:38:38,850
listened to it a few times and it was a

3451
02:38:44,090 --> 02:38:40,620
much better

3452
02:38:46,610 --> 02:38:44,100
interview then my memory was I thought

3453
02:38:49,340 --> 02:38:46,620
that he was he was very bright and and

3454
02:38:51,950 --> 02:38:49,350
was was on top of his game and I've

3455
02:38:55,940 --> 02:38:51,960
talked to him as you know many many

3456
02:38:57,980 --> 02:38:55,950
times privately and I think that he's

3457
02:39:01,880 --> 02:38:57,990
always been committed I think he's a

3458
02:39:04,220 --> 02:39:01,890
funny guy his the private conversations

3459
02:39:05,650 --> 02:39:04,230
are very animated and I think he's down

3460
02:39:11,480 --> 02:39:05,660
to earth with his feet on the ground

3461
02:39:14,810 --> 02:39:11,490
that be but that being said you've got

3462
02:39:17,270 --> 02:39:14,820
this momentum going on here and you the

3463
02:39:19,450 --> 02:39:17,280
if you're gonna lose the community you

3464
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:19,460
need to bring the community back and

3465
02:39:26,090 --> 02:39:22,170
that's where I think the disconnect is

3466
02:39:29,390 --> 02:39:26,100
right now and the community needs it you

3467
02:39:32,900 --> 02:39:29,400
you you rope them in you got them you

3468
02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:32,910
hugged them and then the wind was let

3469
02:39:38,990 --> 02:39:37,170
out of their sails and the wind was let

3470
02:39:41,240 --> 02:39:39,000
out of their expectations well I mean

3471
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:41,250
everybody expected them to start you

3472
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:43,530
know hauling saucers out of hangers and

3473
02:39:47,840 --> 02:39:45,840
was nothing less than that was going to

3474
02:39:50,690 --> 02:39:47,850
satisfy no that wasn't going to happen

3475
02:39:51,980 --> 02:39:50,700
but what's wrong and what's wrong with

3476
02:39:53,780 --> 02:39:51,990
that is what I'm saying

3477
02:39:57,320 --> 02:39:53,790
they also gone with it it's it's not

3478
02:39:58,430 --> 02:39:57,330
doable it's okay they are operating it's

3479
02:40:00,830 --> 02:39:58,440
not like the entire military

3480
02:40:04,610 --> 02:40:00,840
intelligence complex has decided this is

3481
02:40:06,050 --> 02:40:04,620
it they are they are a group that has

3482
02:40:07,520 --> 02:40:06,060
decided to make this move there's plenty

3483
02:40:09,860 --> 02:40:07,530
of opposition still in the end I see

3484
02:40:11,990 --> 02:40:09,870
sure and they if they get if they get

3485
02:40:13,370 --> 02:40:12,000
outta line no no we're not they're not

3486
02:40:15,050 --> 02:40:13,380
doing anything illegal they're not

3487
02:40:16,580 --> 02:40:15,060
releasing on class and classified

3488
02:40:18,380 --> 02:40:16,590
material they're not violating any

3489
02:40:20,420 --> 02:40:18,390
non-disclosure oath they don't even say

3490
02:40:22,280 --> 02:40:20,430
the word extraterrestrial so they've

3491
02:40:24,380 --> 02:40:22,290
been given certain rules and guidelines

3492
02:40:25,820 --> 02:40:24,390
and they're staying within them so and

3493
02:40:27,470 --> 02:40:25,830
there may be some control of the pace of

3494
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:27,480
things and that's just the way it's

3495
02:40:30,410 --> 02:40:28,560
going to be the fact that they're out

3496
02:40:32,270 --> 02:40:30,420
there at all we should be thrilled

3497
02:40:34,580 --> 02:40:32,280
that's there's some question about that

3498
02:40:39,110 --> 02:40:34,590
what I am saying and you're absolutely

3499
02:40:41,360 --> 02:40:39,120
right what I'm saying is T TSA either

3500
02:40:43,130 --> 02:40:41,370
DeLonge or Elizondo if he's going to be

3501
02:40:46,640 --> 02:40:43,140
the face of this has come out and then

3502
02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:46,650
to address these issues that's all just

3503
02:40:52,460 --> 02:40:48,810
just come out and address them the

3504
02:40:53,620 --> 02:40:52,470
silence is very bad it's the trust thing

3505
02:40:56,080 --> 02:40:53,630
the top

3506
02:40:58,690 --> 02:40:56,090
only silent gym not you know he gave up

3507
02:41:00,880 --> 02:40:58,700
he gave a filmed Q&A to the

3508
02:41:03,969 --> 02:41:00,890
International UFO Congress back in

3509
02:41:05,350 --> 02:41:03,979
February he gave a films Q&A response to

3510
02:41:09,040 --> 02:41:05,360
the Brazilian conference about just

3511
02:41:10,870 --> 02:41:09,050
about a month ago and they did have some

3512
02:41:12,969 --> 02:41:10,880
issues they had some problems as they

3513
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:12,979
started to engage our community which

3514
02:41:16,240 --> 02:41:14,930
was good because it indicated they're

3515
02:41:18,639 --> 02:41:16,250
not going to pretend we didn't exist

3516
02:41:20,740 --> 02:41:18,649
they do I think there's a respect there

3517
02:41:24,190 --> 02:41:20,750
for all that's been done by the

3518
02:41:28,510 --> 02:41:24,200
community but the community is

3519
02:41:30,130 --> 02:41:28,520
frustrated angry irritable because we've

3520
02:41:31,330 --> 02:41:30,140
been in an actual ghetto for seventy

3521
02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:31,340
years let me tell you we're going to go

3522
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:33,130
to 70 years you get a little testy and

3523
02:41:38,770 --> 02:41:35,840
and and we have we know the you know the

3524
02:41:40,750 --> 02:41:38,780
questions to ask and so if they get it

3525
02:41:42,010 --> 02:41:40,760
too close to us we start firing off all

3526
02:41:45,400 --> 02:41:42,020
these questions that they can't answer

3527
02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:45,410
and so they had to kind of step back but

3528
02:41:52,660 --> 02:41:48,290
it's notable Elizondo will make his

3529
02:41:55,900 --> 02:41:52,670
first public engagement of our community

3530
02:41:59,530 --> 02:41:55,910
at the MUFON symposium at the end of

3531
02:42:01,660 --> 02:41:59,540
this month July 24 to 27 he is going to

3532
02:42:03,639 --> 02:42:01,670
be live he's going to be speaking there

3533
02:42:05,740 --> 02:42:03,649
I anticipate that questions will be

3534
02:42:09,040 --> 02:42:05,750
controlled it's not going to be Mike

3535
02:42:10,810 --> 02:42:09,050
people coming up to a mic but they're

3536
02:42:13,450 --> 02:42:10,820
trying to then re-engage us and I think

3537
02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:13,460
they deliberately decided to use MUFON

3538
02:42:18,130 --> 02:42:16,370
it's sort of a door to engage us because

3539
02:42:21,310 --> 02:42:18,140
it's established organization there's

3540
02:42:23,080 --> 02:42:21,320
some some structure and so forth and

3541
02:42:25,389 --> 02:42:23,090
they're going to be working with MUFON

3542
02:42:28,120 --> 02:42:25,399
directly which is fine so that's about

3543
02:42:31,360 --> 02:42:28,130
to happen in just a few weeks but again

3544
02:42:35,490 --> 02:42:31,370
you cannot underestimate the effect of

3545
02:42:38,139 --> 02:42:35,500
this extraordinary political chaos on

3546
02:42:40,330 --> 02:42:38,149
anybody's plans particularly plans like

3547
02:42:41,830 --> 02:42:40,340
this look this political chaos isn't in

3548
02:42:44,320 --> 02:42:41,840
the process consuming NATO

3549
02:42:47,290 --> 02:42:44,330
it's got Britain up a notch it's got

3550
02:42:49,120 --> 02:42:47,300
Germany is completely confused right

3551
02:42:55,110 --> 02:42:49,130
we've got a trade war beginning with

3552
02:42:57,969 --> 02:42:55,120
China this is way off the scale Jim

3553
02:42:59,980 --> 02:42:57,979
as a political observer for a long time

3554
02:43:02,770 --> 02:42:59,990
I can tell you we are we are in

3555
02:43:06,310 --> 02:43:02,780
Wonderland and and they are having to

3556
02:43:08,020 --> 02:43:06,320
try that they never expected this

3557
02:43:09,970 --> 02:43:08,030
they had a plan and it was a good plan

3558
02:43:12,730 --> 02:43:09,980
and it was based on Hillary Clinton

3559
02:43:14,560 --> 02:43:12,740
becoming president regardless of what

3560
02:43:15,881 --> 02:43:14,570
they thought about her politics she was

3561
02:43:17,711 --> 02:43:15,891
going to disclose and there's a whole

3562
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:17,721
track record but the Clinton team going

3563
02:43:22,480 --> 02:43:20,240
all the way back to 93 she discloses

3564
02:43:24,671 --> 02:43:22,490
they get ahead of it everybody wins

3565
02:43:27,131 --> 02:43:24,681
so that election disrupted their plans

3566
02:43:30,940 --> 02:43:27,141
it disrupted the plans of countless

3567
02:43:32,770 --> 02:43:30,950
organizations initiative projects then

3568
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:32,780
it started undoing stuff that had been

3569
02:43:38,230 --> 02:43:35,410
done for years literally tearing down

3570
02:43:40,570 --> 02:43:38,240
structures not just confusing future

3571
02:43:45,070 --> 02:43:40,580
projects so we're in uncharted territory

3572
02:43:47,980 --> 02:43:45,080
and all I can say is that while they had

3573
02:43:50,801 --> 02:43:47,990
their slow walking it they are doing

3574
02:43:54,520 --> 02:43:50,811
some things look in May May about maybe

3575
02:43:57,251 --> 02:43:54,530
eight belong again this notice how it's

3576
02:44:00,671 --> 02:43:57,261
kind of low-key he puts up a write-up on

3577
02:44:03,430 --> 02:44:00,681
his Facebook page and in this write-up

3578
02:44:06,910 --> 02:44:03,440
he says we're making some progress we're

3579
02:44:08,140 --> 02:44:06,920
having meetings on the hill private I'm

3580
02:44:10,570 --> 02:44:08,150
having we're having meetings in

3581
02:44:12,610 --> 02:44:10,580
Hollywood with big producers and studios

3582
02:44:15,970 --> 02:44:12,620
for some serious movies and things like

3583
02:44:19,570 --> 02:44:15,980
that notice behind the scenes that they

3584
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:19,580
can do public stuff is a problem try to

3585
02:44:23,171 --> 02:44:21,200
get a story in the New York Times it's a

3586
02:44:23,530 --> 02:44:23,181
problem but having some private meetings

3587
02:44:26,770 --> 02:44:23,540
on the hill

3588
02:44:30,011 --> 02:44:26,780
sure so God knows what's in the works

3589
02:44:32,470 --> 02:44:30,021
potentially and and it takes time for

3590
02:44:34,990 --> 02:44:32,480
these kinds of things to develop and if

3591
02:44:36,761 --> 02:44:35,000
it's behind the scenes it's not it's not

3592
02:44:43,301 --> 02:44:36,771
going to create much of a wave for them

3593
02:44:48,011 --> 02:44:43,311
so that's in May he initiated that so it

3594
02:44:51,671 --> 02:44:48,021
hasn't stopped and I have every right to

3595
02:44:53,711 --> 02:44:51,681
be utterly impatient about this about 21

3596
02:44:56,291 --> 02:44:53,721
years it's been just retired after 50

3597
02:44:57,430 --> 02:44:56,301
years of engaging this issue I know I

3598
02:44:59,830 --> 02:44:57,440
know

3599
02:45:01,690 --> 02:44:59,840
before before I say good night and thank

3600
02:45:06,940 --> 02:45:01,700
you for hanging out for a few extra

3601
02:45:09,791 --> 02:45:06,950
minutes you are working on a film so

3602
02:45:13,150 --> 02:45:09,801
tell us about that and and where are you

3603
02:45:15,820 --> 02:45:13,160
with it and I believe you're trying to

3604
02:45:16,690 --> 02:45:15,830
raise some funds to as well it's

3605
02:45:19,660 --> 02:45:16,700
complicated

3606
02:45:20,201 --> 02:45:19,670
I got a production deal with Mr Singh

3607
02:45:23,531 --> 02:45:20,211
Kaleka

3608
02:45:25,270 --> 02:45:23,541
and never-ending like productions we

3609
02:45:27,640 --> 02:45:25,280
have initial teaser it's not a trailer a

3610
02:45:31,781 --> 02:45:27,650
teaser put together and we have a

3611
02:45:33,131 --> 02:45:31,791
website disclosure dot film but until we

3612
02:45:35,321 --> 02:45:33,141
can raise a hundred thousand we can't

3613
02:45:36,730 --> 02:45:35,331
start production and the film will

3614
02:45:38,261 --> 02:45:36,740
literally be the political story that

3615
02:45:41,020 --> 02:45:38,271
I've been telling you with some other

3616
02:45:42,611 --> 02:45:41,030
stuff but it'd be involving interviewing

3617
02:45:44,711 --> 02:45:42,621
a whole lot of principals involved in

3618
02:45:47,440 --> 02:45:44,721
this story about fifty five total of the

3619
02:45:49,031 --> 02:45:47,450
target so basically political story from

3620
02:45:52,060 --> 02:45:49,041
93 to 2017

3621
02:45:54,341 --> 02:45:52,070
it's called disclosure but again because

3622
02:45:56,680 --> 02:45:54,351
of the political storm underway we

3623
02:45:59,531 --> 02:45:56,690
cannot we cannot really get focused

3624
02:46:02,381 --> 02:45:59,541
attention so we're not able to raise

3625
02:46:03,581 --> 02:46:02,391
money right now that doesn't mean a

3626
02:46:04,690 --> 02:46:03,591
donor couldn't turn up Tamar and say

3627
02:46:05,921 --> 02:46:04,700
look what do you need to get started a

3628
02:46:07,751 --> 02:46:05,931
hundred thousand okay we start

3629
02:46:08,921 --> 02:46:07,761
production the budget total budget for

3630
02:46:10,991 --> 02:46:08,931
the film in the book is six hundred

3631
02:46:12,461 --> 02:46:11,001
thousand mm-hmm so it's I guess you

3632
02:46:16,961 --> 02:46:12,471
could say it's in suspension the website

3633
02:46:18,310 --> 02:46:16,971
is still up teaser is up but we are kind

3634
02:46:21,491 --> 02:46:18,320
of in the position the to the stars

3635
02:46:24,100 --> 02:46:21,501
Academy you can't compete with a

3636
02:46:26,111 --> 02:46:24,110
hurricane of this magnitude you got to

3637
02:46:28,751 --> 02:46:26,121
stay indoors and bunker down shut the

3638
02:46:31,810 --> 02:46:28,761
windows right right right remove all the

3639
02:46:33,850 --> 02:46:31,820
patio furniture and wait for the storm

3640
02:46:35,350 --> 02:46:33,860
to pass and and so right now I guess you

3641
02:46:36,911 --> 02:46:35,360
could say it's in suspension but if

3642
02:46:38,291 --> 02:46:36,921
there's any significant donor out there

3643
02:46:40,961 --> 02:46:38,301
they would like to see a major this

3644
02:46:42,850 --> 02:46:40,971
would be a major documentary if we if

3645
02:46:45,310 --> 02:46:42,860
it's done the way we want to do it it

3646
02:46:49,270 --> 02:46:45,320
will not be some Netflix documentary

3647
02:46:52,541 --> 02:46:49,280
it'll be potentially the full screen

3648
02:46:54,961 --> 02:46:52,551
theater distribution dock and that's

3649
02:46:58,440 --> 02:46:54,971
where that's at Jen so again patients

3650
02:47:00,821 --> 02:46:58,450
what can I say there well you've always

3651
02:47:03,371 --> 02:47:00,831
continued to roll that rock uphill and

3652
02:47:06,281 --> 02:47:03,381
you know you've got the the respect of

3653
02:47:08,711 --> 02:47:06,291
this community man and every time that I

3654
02:47:11,291 --> 02:47:08,721
see you I say the same thing as I shake

3655
02:47:15,060 --> 02:47:11,301
your hand and just keep rolling that

3656
02:47:17,680 --> 02:47:15,070
rock up hills deep and never change okay

3657
02:47:19,781 --> 02:47:17,690
okay I will do music greatest supporter

3658
02:47:23,440 --> 02:47:19,791
as well and big things are ahead of us

3659
02:47:25,720 --> 02:47:23,450
just hang in there this is gonna resolve

3660
02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:25,730
eventually did there's too much is

3661
02:47:29,501 --> 02:47:27,490
already out too much has happened

3662
02:47:30,161 --> 02:47:29,511
something's going to give I hope it's

3663
02:47:32,651 --> 02:47:30,171
not Putin

3664
02:47:33,910 --> 02:47:32,661
I hope the US will be the leader on this

3665
02:47:35,679 --> 02:47:33,920
well you've all

3666
02:47:38,590 --> 02:47:35,689
like that that happened to left I

3667
02:47:41,530 --> 02:47:38,600
watched all of those tapes out of Moscow

3668
02:47:45,370 --> 02:47:41,540
and I just thought to myself man he is

3669
02:47:48,340 --> 02:47:45,380
just stirred the hornet's nest and I got

3670
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:48,350
I mean I was I was nervous watching

3671
02:47:52,860 --> 02:47:51,770
those for you and the fact that you dig

3672
02:47:56,980 --> 02:47:52,870
it out of there alive

3673
02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:56,990
thus it says a lot and you know that

3674
02:48:02,290 --> 02:48:00,080
Putin was well aware and and everybody

3675
02:48:04,120 --> 02:48:02,300
else that's part of his circle so you

3676
02:48:07,450 --> 02:48:04,130
never know man you may have poked the

3677
02:48:09,040 --> 02:48:07,460
bear I think I did I wasn't worried

3678
02:48:11,530 --> 02:48:09,050
about getting out alive I was worried

3679
02:48:14,380 --> 02:48:11,540
about maybe being stop and have a little

3680
02:48:15,730 --> 02:48:14,390
interview right were you come on over to

3681
02:48:18,130 --> 02:48:15,740
the we gotta go to the room yep chat a

3682
02:48:20,740 --> 02:48:18,140
little bit right which would have been

3683
02:48:22,270 --> 02:48:20,750
an indication of some displeasure but

3684
02:48:25,780 --> 02:48:22,280
that didn't happen in fact nothing has

3685
02:48:28,390 --> 02:48:25,790
happened and I got the to the to prop -

3686
02:48:29,890 --> 02:48:28,400
are you articles actually my

3687
02:48:32,320 --> 02:48:29,900
presentation now but I gotta get them up

3688
02:48:34,929 --> 02:48:32,330
on my website there you can find them if

3689
02:48:37,210 --> 02:48:34,939
you go to the print media archive and

3690
02:48:41,380 --> 02:48:37,220
paradigm research group side org and and

3691
02:48:43,300 --> 02:48:41,390
look in the December of 2017 you can

3692
02:48:44,760 --> 02:48:43,310
find the - prob - are you articles there

3693
02:48:47,469 --> 02:48:44,770
right there and you can read them

3694
02:48:48,969 --> 02:48:47,479
basically get out there now popular are

3695
02:48:51,390 --> 02:48:48,979
you as a lot of people say well it's

3696
02:48:54,400 --> 02:48:51,400
just a kind of a Russian tabloid site

3697
02:48:56,050 --> 02:48:54,410
but I assure you the Kremlin knows

3698
02:48:58,960 --> 02:48:56,060
what's going on and probably are you

3699
02:49:00,219 --> 02:48:58,970
they owned ain't invitin if they owned

3700
02:49:02,230 --> 02:49:00,229
it yep

3701
02:49:04,210 --> 02:49:02,240
and so these articles are basically

3702
02:49:08,110 --> 02:49:04,220
saying this activist once Putin to

3703
02:49:10,150 --> 02:49:08,120
disclose and I'm going okay that's good

3704
02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:10,160
now it hasn't turned up on RT it hasn't

3705
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:12,170
turned up elsewhere that I'm aware of

3706
02:49:19,450 --> 02:49:17,200
and so again that was an indicator but

3707
02:49:20,920 --> 02:49:19,460
all I learned was that he's not

3708
02:49:22,060 --> 02:49:20,930
uncomfortable with it doesn't mean he's

3709
02:49:24,219 --> 02:49:22,070
gonna do something right away

3710
02:49:27,280 --> 02:49:24,229
was it an awful lot going on right now

3711
02:49:29,620 --> 02:49:27,290
wasn't it med valve that slipped up on

3712
02:49:34,540 --> 02:49:29,630
on the news one night and said that he's

3713
02:49:35,350 --> 02:49:34,550
got the what did he say I forget he I

3714
02:49:37,750 --> 02:49:35,360
know

3715
02:49:39,460 --> 02:49:37,760
yeah the care was after a News interview

3716
02:49:41,770 --> 02:49:39,470
after news in and was in the hall

3717
02:49:44,320 --> 02:49:41,780
talking to the to the one of the year

3718
02:49:45,310 --> 02:49:44,330
reporter types after it's over but she

3719
02:49:47,290 --> 02:49:45,320
has the mic on

3720
02:49:49,840 --> 02:49:47,300
she asked him about

3721
02:49:51,690 --> 02:49:49,850
books and stuff and the secrets get

3722
02:49:54,730 --> 02:49:51,700
passed from one president of the next

3723
02:49:57,099 --> 02:49:54,740
and he said yeah and he literally

3724
02:49:58,780 --> 02:49:57,109
referred to the etsu and said that you

3725
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:58,790
can learn a lot about that in a film

3726
02:50:02,620 --> 02:50:01,520
called men in black was that a slip-up I

3727
02:50:03,309 --> 02:50:02,630
don't think so I think it was

3728
02:50:05,080 --> 02:50:03,319
intentional

3729
02:50:07,690 --> 02:50:05,090
it was another little message to the

3730
02:50:09,700 --> 02:50:07,700
u.s. it we're not we're not chopped

3731
02:50:13,170 --> 02:50:09,710
liver here we're not potted plant we

3732
02:50:15,610 --> 02:50:13,180
know about this to just let you know and

3733
02:50:17,410 --> 02:50:15,620
the American media this is so classic

3734
02:50:19,530 --> 02:50:17,420
the American media are naturally

3735
02:50:22,030 --> 02:50:19,540
immediately interpreted as a joke

3736
02:50:23,650 --> 02:50:22,040
because he's all a joke right under the

3737
02:50:24,580 --> 02:50:23,660
truth embargo it's all a joke and that's

3738
02:50:26,740 --> 02:50:24,590
what you have to keep telling yourself

3739
02:50:28,150 --> 02:50:26,750
so you don't feel bad about the fact

3740
02:50:29,500 --> 02:50:28,160
that you've committed a journalistic

3741
02:50:30,969 --> 02:50:29,510
failure that history we'll be talking

3742
02:50:32,980 --> 02:50:30,979
about for a thousand years whatever

3743
02:50:34,330 --> 02:50:32,990
right but of course you but he turns out

3744
02:50:35,950 --> 02:50:34,340
he wasn't talking about men in black

3745
02:50:39,309 --> 02:50:35,960
with Will Smith he was talking about a

3746
02:50:42,190 --> 02:50:39,319
documentary in Russia called men in

3747
02:50:46,059 --> 02:50:42,200
black which was a serious doc so yeah

3748
02:50:49,900 --> 02:50:46,069
with a little thing there did that and

3749
02:50:52,030 --> 02:50:49,910
did they follow up no but I look believe

3750
02:50:56,139 --> 02:50:52,040
me Russia has done more research on this

3751
02:50:57,670 --> 02:50:56,149
well Russia has done a Soviet Union of

3752
02:50:58,780 --> 02:50:57,680
Russia done tons of research and et

3753
02:51:00,760 --> 02:50:58,790
issues a lot of it's been more

3754
02:51:02,590 --> 02:51:00,770
publicized than in the US there's tons

3755
02:51:04,570 --> 02:51:02,600
of people tons of military and pilots

3756
02:51:06,340 --> 02:51:04,580
and astronauts that have that have made

3757
02:51:08,200 --> 02:51:06,350
statements that kind of confirm it the

3758
02:51:10,179 --> 02:51:08,210
Russians know what's going on do they

3759
02:51:12,490 --> 02:51:10,189
have a crash vehicle or more like we do

3760
02:51:14,260 --> 02:51:12,500
don't know because they know Zen et

3761
02:51:17,380 --> 02:51:14,270
presence you better believe they do and

3762
02:51:18,370 --> 02:51:17,390
they have their own reasons and I've

3763
02:51:20,740 --> 02:51:18,380
always had their own reasons for

3764
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:20,750
maintaining their position which is

3765
02:51:23,320 --> 02:51:22,010
basically an embargo they're not

3766
02:51:24,700 --> 02:51:23,330
acknowledging it but they're not

3767
02:51:26,800 --> 02:51:24,710
stopping research on it they're not

3768
02:51:28,860 --> 02:51:26,810
they're not cashiering people that talk

3769
02:51:31,240 --> 02:51:28,870
about it give you know give that give a

3770
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:31,250
interview to whether it's george Napper

3771
02:51:37,719 --> 02:51:34,010
or HESA men or some of the others that

3772
02:51:42,179 --> 02:51:37,729
have gone over there so the our CIA has

3773
02:51:45,280 --> 02:51:42,189
got to know that they don't have some

3774
02:51:48,389 --> 02:51:45,290
extraterrestrial phobia or they're

3775
02:51:52,270 --> 02:51:48,399
afraid of addressing this issue

3776
02:51:55,059 --> 02:51:52,280
nationally they must know that and

3777
02:51:57,250 --> 02:51:55,069
therefore they have to assume if they're

3778
02:51:59,559 --> 02:51:57,260
unless they have to assume that they

3779
02:52:01,160 --> 02:51:59,569
could act at any time if they're not

3780
02:52:05,600 --> 02:52:01,170
doing that they're making a

3781
02:52:07,910 --> 02:52:05,610
huge mistake and so all I can say is

3782
02:52:10,190 --> 02:52:07,920
right now and I've said this if you had

3783
02:52:13,820 --> 02:52:10,200
if I had to list the heads of state most

3784
02:52:17,570 --> 02:52:13,830
likely to disclose Putin is at the top

3785
02:52:19,550 --> 02:52:17,580
right now not not our president and

3786
02:52:22,700 --> 02:52:19,560
that's the way it is yeah and you know

3787
02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:22,710
and this is whatever anybody thinks

3788
02:52:28,610 --> 02:52:25,110
about Putin I'll lay down the facts

3789
02:52:31,130 --> 02:52:28,620
right now he does what he wants and he's

3790
02:52:34,010 --> 02:52:31,140
got the respect of Russia propping him

3791
02:52:36,469 --> 02:52:34,020
up and the he makes his own decisions

3792
02:52:37,340 --> 02:52:36,479
there is nobody else there telling him

3793
02:52:40,190 --> 02:52:37,350
what to do

3794
02:52:41,000 --> 02:52:40,200
it's absolutely and the circumstances

3795
02:52:43,190 --> 02:52:41,010
are ideal

3796
02:52:45,830 --> 02:52:43,200
he's authoritarian he's got a high

3797
02:52:48,800 --> 02:52:45,840
approval rating Russian - Russian people

3798
02:52:51,110 --> 02:52:48,810
and and the Putin in a political class

3799
02:52:53,540 --> 02:52:51,120
are very irritated they've been

3800
02:52:55,429 --> 02:52:53,550
disrespected by the West and say they

3801
02:52:58,820 --> 02:52:55,439
basically conceded their Republic's and

3802
02:53:02,840 --> 02:52:58,830
and stood down from the Cold War they've

3803
02:53:04,040 --> 02:53:02,850
been I guess you would say abused we're

3804
02:53:05,810 --> 02:53:04,050
constantly talking about how they're

3805
02:53:07,280 --> 02:53:05,820
this and that and their economy is you

3806
02:53:09,400 --> 02:53:07,290
know the equivalent of Rhode Island or

3807
02:53:11,870 --> 02:53:09,410
whatever the hell they don't like it

3808
02:53:15,410 --> 02:53:11,880
they're a vast nation with a huge

3809
02:53:17,150 --> 02:53:15,420
history believe me if they get their act

3810
02:53:18,830 --> 02:53:17,160
together they could be the next China

3811
02:53:21,170 --> 02:53:18,840
the point is that they're not like they

3812
02:53:24,800 --> 02:53:21,180
don't like this and so this idea that

3813
02:53:28,310 --> 02:53:24,810
that if Putin were to disclose the

3814
02:53:29,780 --> 02:53:28,320
Russian people would be thrilled Russia

3815
02:53:31,820 --> 02:53:29,790
would be elevated Putin would be

3816
02:53:35,240 --> 02:53:31,830
elevated it would be a real kick in the

3817
02:53:38,330 --> 02:53:35,250
butt to the west on on a taper it looks

3818
02:53:42,020 --> 02:53:38,340
like a no-brainer for Russia under these

3819
02:53:43,790 --> 02:53:42,030
circumstances again oh I've done it I

3820
02:53:45,640 --> 02:53:43,800
just did it again tonight I sent a

3821
02:53:48,110 --> 02:53:45,650
message to the CIA and the Pentagon

3822
02:53:51,710 --> 02:53:48,120
between the White House rebel ears

3823
02:53:53,870 --> 02:53:51,720
against you this is it guys you were

3824
02:53:55,550 --> 02:53:53,880
you're kind of in a race but you like

3825
02:53:58,010 --> 02:53:55,560
the hair I mean you're like the but it

3826
02:54:00,050 --> 02:53:58,020
was it yeah you're like the hair that's

3827
02:54:03,290 --> 02:54:00,060
you know not not taking it taking his

3828
02:54:05,929 --> 02:54:03,300
time no big deal it's gonna win and

3829
02:54:07,460 --> 02:54:05,939
can't lose you meanwhile the turtle that

3830
02:54:10,490 --> 02:54:07,470
would be Putin it's just literally

3831
02:54:11,870 --> 02:54:10,500
heading for the finish line and suddenly

3832
02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:11,880
you're gonna wake up one morning and

3833
02:54:15,591 --> 02:54:14,970
discover the turtle won and I'm telling

3834
02:54:18,770 --> 02:54:15,601
you

3835
02:54:21,051 --> 02:54:18,780
Jim if Boonton were to disclose the et

3836
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:21,061
presence before the United States it

3837
02:54:27,201 --> 02:54:24,240
will be a geopolitical catastrophe mmm

3838
02:54:29,060 --> 02:54:27,211
flat-out right I'm not talking nuclear

3839
02:54:31,671 --> 02:54:29,070
war here I'm talking geopolitical

3840
02:54:32,900 --> 02:54:31,681
catastrophe right in terms of the status

3841
02:54:35,781 --> 02:54:32,910
of the United States and the world

3842
02:54:36,831 --> 02:54:35,791
versus Russia and all of a fallout

3843
02:54:38,690 --> 02:54:36,841
that's going to happen in the u.s.

3844
02:54:39,261 --> 02:54:38,700
because there's no upside there's no

3845
02:54:40,940 --> 02:54:39,271
glory

3846
02:54:44,810 --> 02:54:40,950
there's nothing but condemnation and

3847
02:54:46,701 --> 02:54:44,820
shame yeah there'll be committee

3848
02:54:48,171 --> 02:54:46,711
hearings and they won't be positive

3849
02:54:50,241 --> 02:54:48,181
it'll be looking for everybody they can

3850
02:54:53,930 --> 02:54:50,251
they can drag in front of the cameras

3851
02:55:00,381 --> 02:54:53,940
and and excoriate it will just be awful

3852
02:55:02,690 --> 02:55:00,391
and so i hope to god somebody in

3853
02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:02,700
government high enough to attempt to

3854
02:55:07,161 --> 02:55:05,610
influence decision-making is hearing

3855
02:55:10,850 --> 02:55:07,171
this I mean I've only been talking about

3856
02:55:13,161 --> 02:55:10,860
it for 20 years not 20 17 years right

3857
02:55:18,951 --> 02:55:13,171
well by the way it's not a thousand I'm

3858
02:55:21,980 --> 02:55:18,961
over 1200 interviews Oh 1201 let's but

3859
02:55:24,310 --> 02:55:21,990
this is I think what is important to

3860
02:55:26,480 --> 02:55:24,320
realize here you know we're always

3861
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:26,490
especially because we live here but

3862
02:55:30,770 --> 02:55:29,070
always focused on what goes on inside of

3863
02:55:34,551 --> 02:55:30,780
the United States and we have our

3864
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:34,561
blinders on the the fact remains and

3865
02:55:39,201 --> 02:55:37,110
it's very simple not only is Putin his

3866
02:55:41,331 --> 02:55:39,211
own man and he makes his own decisions

3867
02:55:44,031 --> 02:55:41,341
but that is something that is completely

3868
02:55:48,560 --> 02:55:44,041
out of Washington's hands Trump or

3869
02:55:52,251 --> 02:55:48,570
otherwise any POTUS that is there it is

3870
02:55:55,671 --> 02:55:52,261
out of their control and that I think

3871
02:55:57,411 --> 02:55:55,681
you're right about that I really really

3872
02:55:59,841 --> 02:55:57,421
do that's an interesting concept and

3873
02:56:03,411 --> 02:55:59,851
again we have blinders on here we don't

3874
02:56:06,291 --> 02:56:03,421
really consider a play like that in a

3875
02:56:09,291 --> 02:56:06,301
geopolitical storm I could not not only

3876
02:56:12,860 --> 02:56:09,301
that how about a petrol dollar storm too

3877
02:56:16,281 --> 02:56:12,870
as well that they've already started to

3878
02:56:18,951 --> 02:56:16,291
move forward with China and to get off

3879
02:56:22,911 --> 02:56:18,961
of the petro dollar and that would be

3880
02:56:25,911 --> 02:56:22,921
something that would a full man

3881
02:56:28,281 --> 02:56:25,921
yeah I I need to say we can't forget

3882
02:56:30,741 --> 02:56:28,291
China no just remember China does have

3883
02:56:33,261 --> 02:56:30,751
an authoritarian leader Xi Jinping who's

3884
02:56:34,400 --> 02:56:33,271
president for life now and I assure you

3885
02:56:37,310 --> 02:56:34,410
there's nobody in the Chinese military

3886
02:56:39,140 --> 02:56:37,320
it's gonna say it Delta XI look yeah you

3887
02:56:40,791 --> 02:56:39,150
don't have a need to know that this et

3888
02:56:43,251 --> 02:56:40,801
thing just leave it to us I don't think

3889
02:56:46,701 --> 02:56:43,261
so mm-hmm and so you got China with 1.3

3890
02:56:48,531 --> 02:56:46,711
billion people that feels it's the

3891
02:56:52,881 --> 02:56:48,541
oldest civilization on the earth right

3892
02:56:55,511 --> 02:56:52,891
now and frankly I think in many cases

3893
02:56:58,551 --> 02:56:55,521
they feel they are the superior

3894
02:57:02,150 --> 02:56:58,561
civilization right now and they have

3895
02:57:06,861 --> 02:57:02,160
been they have been disabused by the by

3896
02:57:09,440 --> 02:57:06,871
the West in a number of ways and they

3897
02:57:11,150 --> 02:57:09,450
really want to assert themselves as the

3898
02:57:13,011 --> 02:57:11,160
great power they're becoming whether

3899
02:57:15,980 --> 02:57:13,021
it's going to Mars or building islands

3900
02:57:19,400 --> 02:57:15,990
in the South China Sea and so aging pain

3901
02:57:21,861 --> 02:57:19,410
could say hmm why shouldn't I be the

3902
02:57:25,761 --> 02:57:21,871
Disclosure president why shouldn't I

3903
02:57:28,341 --> 02:57:25,771
make the announcement one reason may be

3904
02:57:30,921 --> 02:57:28,351
that he may feel it could loosen his

3905
02:57:34,461 --> 02:57:30,931
authoritarian control I don't know but

3906
02:57:38,270 --> 02:57:34,471
he would gain so much and so these two

3907
02:57:41,421 --> 02:57:38,280
leaders hmm by the way who who are

3908
02:57:43,701 --> 02:57:41,431
involved now in this chaos obviously

3909
02:57:45,890 --> 02:57:43,711
Russia and Putin are completely consumed

3910
02:57:47,270 --> 02:57:45,900
in this hurricane they got yeah and

3911
02:57:48,831 --> 02:57:47,280
brushes are being indicted left and

3912
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:48,841
right he's being accused of everything

3913
02:57:52,581 --> 02:57:50,160
the world meanwhile in the cheating

3914
02:57:55,640 --> 02:57:52,591
thing in China he's not he's not

3915
02:57:57,291 --> 02:57:55,650
involved in a political chaos but he is

3916
02:57:59,720 --> 02:57:57,301
there that we're getting into a trade

3917
02:58:02,301 --> 02:57:59,730
war the United States right hundreds of

3918
02:58:04,341 --> 02:58:02,311
billions of dollars in tariffs and we're

3919
02:58:06,560 --> 02:58:04,351
we're sailing destroyers and flying over

3920
02:58:09,560 --> 02:58:06,570
these artificial islands right and so

3921
02:58:12,140 --> 02:58:09,570
we're imitating him whether it's

3922
02:58:14,421 --> 02:58:12,150
justified or not doesn't matter and so

3923
02:58:17,781 --> 02:58:14,431
this idea that they don't either

3924
02:58:19,970 --> 02:58:17,791
both of these ippolit Aryan high control

3925
02:58:23,501 --> 02:58:19,980
leaders with relatively high approval

3926
02:58:25,671 --> 02:58:23,511
ratings one has a huge land mass that

3927
02:58:28,881 --> 02:58:25,681
China would love to have a piece of and

3928
02:58:31,701 --> 02:58:28,891
the other has a huge population but

3929
02:58:34,041 --> 02:58:31,711
China's got four times as many people as

3930
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:34,051
we have Russia's got three times as much

3931
02:58:39,690 --> 02:58:36,730
land this idea that these two leaders

3932
02:58:41,761 --> 02:58:39,700
all we just the US deserves this we'll

3933
02:58:43,801 --> 02:58:41,771
wait they've been taking a lot of time

3934
02:58:45,060 --> 02:58:43,811
but it's theirs it's their breast ring

3935
02:58:48,150 --> 02:58:45,070
we're not going to take it from them

3936
02:58:50,131 --> 02:58:48,160
this is ridiculous and so once again I

3937
02:58:51,810 --> 02:58:50,141
realize America is in a place where I

3938
02:58:53,011 --> 02:58:51,820
can't get anything done it's completely

3939
02:58:54,900 --> 02:58:53,021
locked up it's like the engine

3940
02:58:57,240 --> 02:58:54,910
completely froze the oil ran out of the

3941
02:58:59,551 --> 02:58:57,250
the corrected crankcase and we're not

3942
02:59:02,070 --> 02:58:59,561
going anywhere except backwards I

3943
02:59:05,100 --> 02:59:02,080
understand that obviously that better

3944
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:05,110
change pretty soon but one of the things

3945
02:59:11,761 --> 02:59:08,080
we're not going well we in an official

3946
02:59:16,110 --> 02:59:11,771
capacity is the et issue except now that

3947
02:59:18,421 --> 02:59:16,120
we have this m.i.c originated group that

3948
02:59:21,690 --> 02:59:18,431
is gone public and is making a maneuver

3949
02:59:24,631 --> 02:59:21,700
here that's something but the problem

3950
02:59:26,190 --> 02:59:24,641
that they have is that to the extent

3951
02:59:28,261 --> 02:59:26,200
that they succeed to the extent that

3952
02:59:29,850 --> 02:59:28,271
they get more out and they stir the

3953
02:59:32,520 --> 02:59:29,860
American people even more and people get

3954
02:59:36,451 --> 02:59:32,530
more excited that the finish line is

3955
02:59:39,001 --> 02:59:36,461
coming closer more likely Xi Jingping or

3956
02:59:41,640 --> 02:59:39,011
Putin may say okay looks like you're

3957
02:59:43,621 --> 02:59:41,650
about to cross the finish line step

3958
02:59:48,270 --> 02:59:43,631
right in cross the line get the blue

3959
02:59:50,371 --> 02:59:48,280
ribbon get the trophy get the medal I

3960
02:59:52,860 --> 02:59:50,381
was hoping for answers tonight now I've

3961
02:59:56,640 --> 02:59:52,870
got questions thanks Steve I really

3962
03:00:00,331 --> 02:59:56,650
appreciate that help my friend hey are

3963
03:00:03,480 --> 03:00:00,341
you see are you speaking anywhere no

3964
03:00:05,701 --> 03:00:03,490
again I did 15 conferences 21 lectures

3965
03:00:07,591 --> 03:00:05,711
right and at this point I'm not booked

3966
03:00:07,890 --> 03:00:07,601
and I'm not necessarily unhappy about

3967
03:00:10,350 --> 03:00:07,900
that

3968
03:00:12,751 --> 03:00:10,360
take a break thank you so much Steve

3969
03:00:14,730 --> 03:00:12,761
behave and be what and I can't wait to

3970
03:00:15,711 --> 03:00:14,740
put you back on the show again okay be

3971
03:00:18,921 --> 03:00:15,721
safe out there

3972
03:00:22,291 --> 03:00:18,931
thank you Steve Bassett's

3973
03:00:26,341 --> 03:00:22,301
unbelievable conversation now paradigm

3974
03:00:29,041 --> 03:00:26,351
research group dot org and I invite

3975
03:00:31,770 --> 03:00:29,051
everybody here to go and not only look

3976
03:00:33,421 --> 03:00:31,780
at those Pravda and read through those

3977
03:00:36,001 --> 03:00:33,431
two articles because they are amazing

3978
03:00:38,520 --> 03:00:36,011
but you've got to go and watch the

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interviews that Steve did for Russian

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television over there and I've got to

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tell you I've watched them many many

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times some of the best stuff that you're

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ever going to see and it was

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done in Moscow so go and check out all

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of that and like he said he's got a

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little teaser put up about this film I I

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want to see that film happen the other

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I've got to get out of here I've got to

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roll credits but I just want to say this

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really quick that the questions raised

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here I think is something that we all

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really need to think about we all

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understand what the media is doing right

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now with the political situations not

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only the divisive nough status been

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generated but there is some angst going

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on out there and it's not just here in

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the United States this is a global

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situation that's going on would Putin a

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would would Russia and China react first

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when it comes to the disclosure question

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in front of the United States and there

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was reasons for it I think it's an

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amazing set of circumstances that Steve

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has presented all of us and tomorrow

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night is Fator night it's open lines all

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night long and I can only imagine right

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now what is gonna go on tomorrow night

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unfaded black with all of you with that

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I've got to get out of here tomorrow

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night Barrett Brown is going to be here

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so you're not gonna want to miss that

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show he's gonna be here in the front

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half and then we're gonna take phone

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calls and move on to Fator night after

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that with that what an amazing

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conversation yeah that's right I blew

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through all the commercials tonight

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sometimes I just don't want to stop the

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conversation I want to remind everybody

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right now that Seoul Tech is going on

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August 9th through the 12th up at ISA t

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ranch go to Seoul tech gathering calm

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okay we've got day passes that are up

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there now too as well we've got a few

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full weekend passes left go and get

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everything booked up at Seoul tech

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gathering dot-com paid to Black's

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executive producers Rita Kumari on show

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is produced by hilton jaipur na denison

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bob announces our steve harder jean

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Vitolo mark d Kivar

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webmaster drew the geek music does

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Albert's intro spaceboy spaceboy music

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the planet this broadcast Sona copyright

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it cannot be rebroadcast download a copy

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to use anywhere in the known universe

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without written permission from fade to

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black of the game change your network

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I'm your host Jimmy church until

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tomorrow night everybody be safe